The
full Tranformers 2 teaser trailer is out (unofficially anyway) so now is the fun of analyzing every frame. A few things observations have come up from Transfans.
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The first is a message from Jason, who provided many set pictures and set reports while Transformers was shooting at
Bethlehem Steel over the summer. On the
last day of the shoot, he was invited to watch the last scene shot at the site, which is now in the trailer at the 1:02 point. It is the moment when the Scavenger completes his transformation and smashes his arms into the ground setting off a huge explosion. Jason also grabbed the screenshot to the left that shows a face in the debris (1:06 point) that the blow causes. Any clue what that is? Maybe ILM having some fun? My best guess is the site is supposed to be Shanghai, China so its a CGI statue head I guess that might be in the area.
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Over at
Planet Lynx there are some screenshot that help get a good look at the apparently unicycle style of the Arcee units, a breakdown where apparently Audi doesn't just flip and transform, but flips, shoots at them and then transforms (showing level of detail ILM is putting on screen), the shot to the right that indicates that Scorponok is diving on the geriatric Jetfire and a possible look at the Fallen.
Update: The cane pic has been updated from an image from Carl to illustrate that the cane is landing gear.
Update 2: Below are some screenshots provided by Elis. The first gives you a look at what is probably The Fallen in the desert, a freeze of Scavenger transforming with the cab on his shoulder, the bug that is torn by Sam complete with mini satellite dish (possible Soundwave minion?), and last is a shot of the unicycle look of Arcee.
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I dunno why but Arcee being a unicycle is just appaling to me.
ReplyDeleteWill it make sense? We will see when the movie comes out.
- Archer said he couldn't give away the plot point, but there's a reason that Soundwave is designed the way he is for the movie. Hasbro had a more basic toy need. So, the two were blended together.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean that soundwave only has a robot mode for the toyline? The robot better be in the movie!
Anything transformers with rolling feet is appalling. Arcee as a 3 part unicycle? BLEH.
ReplyDeleteBad enough devestator has 4 eyes and ravage has 1... cut the stupid unicycle bots out already.
that is not a face its just how the spolight fell on a building idiots
ReplyDeleteFuck now that i see screen shots i can see what might mess up this film. Here are a few things Warning may include spoilers:
ReplyDelete1. Jetfire as an old twat will be stupid especialy if he can transform into a flash new jet.
2.All three arcee bots seem to have Unicycle robot forms.
3.Devastator has 4 eyes
4.Ravage has 3 eyes (Two black ones on side and the red eye in the middle)
5.The fallen has no vissible weapons and isnt on Fire
6.The film might not explain how scorponok re-grew his tail
7.Again the plot is the same Sam finds out something and is chased by Decepticons with only Bumblee bee helping him
I rate this trailer 7/10 as it only shows a few clips from the last trailer and useless scenes designed to waste time like a tiny sam running with a pyramid next to him or Scavenger hitting the ground to send up a dust cloud or even worse sam looking at a small bug then flicking his eyes from left to right.
Scorpio,
ReplyDeleteAs for Jetfire being a 'new and spiffy SR-71 you need to brush up alittle on your facts alittle.
SR-71
Introduced 1966
Retired 1998
Plenty of old-broken down SR's out there I reckon
The Author said:
ReplyDelete"Jason also grabbed the screenshot to the left that shows a face in the debris (1:06 point) that the blow causes. Any clue what that is?"
Looks like a cup with a ball in it. Friggin' weird. A Martini? lol. Too blurry to see.
-Johnny
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteScorpio,
As for Jetfire being a 'new and spiffy SR-71 you need to brush up alittle on your facts alittle.
Scorpio says:
Sorry i didnt check its just the SR-71 is a cool looking jet and the one jetfire transforms into is shiny and new and it is the fastest military plane. Surely they should have had an older plane like the one in the link below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor
Replying to anonymous above:
The explosion causes a cloud of dust and the helicopter which is viewing the transformation focuses its spotlight on the dust cloud creating this image of a face or showing Scavengers face behind the smoke.
Thats another mystery solved gang
They should have made Kup the old-timer with his funny war stories from the cartoon movie. "This reminds me of the time..."
ReplyDeleteOh well.. that would have been great!
"1. Jetfire as an old twat will be stupid especialy if he can transform into a flash new jet."
ReplyDeleteAnd Bumblebee transformed into an old Camaro in the last film, what's your point? Scorpio, you're an idiot.
Should we really be getting our panties in a twist over how Scoroponok grew his tail back?
ReplyDeleteThe SR-71 is far from shiny,or new. There were only 33 made and they're all pretty old and busted at this point, probably why he's sitting in a museum.
You are right Scorpio.
ReplyDeleteDamn it! I didn't even think of a spotlight, stupid....@#$%......$*&^&#!
-Johnny
Considering that Jetfire is getting a LEADER toy, I doubt he's going to be a twat.
ReplyDeleteYour only going to see the constructicons unite once throught the movie. Its going to be a three way battle Megatron vs. fallen vs. autobots. The teaser are key battles not key plots. It is not going to be like anything from the cartoon theory or comic. Its going to be a new theory of its own
ReplyDeleteThe face is a bunch of concrete pipes being knocked away by the explosion. The parts with the bikes goes by too quickly to definitively say that they only have unicycle modes. Perhaps they have a unicycle mode as well as a bipedal mode? Lastly, I don't know what that is, debris maybe, but I don't think that thing is a cane. I don't want to make any personal decisions on what anything is until i see a clear HD version of the trailer.
ReplyDeleteScorpio... where do u see 2 black eyes on RAVAGE?
ReplyDelete• I also think its possible that ARCEE has 3 mode but who know...
ReplyDelete• All so after playing trailer over and over in slow motion... maybe SCORPONOK is not even attacking the other robot... just jumping out in front... maybe just presenting it self to the robot...
• as far as his tail the trailer never shows his tail fully
• and i just posted a photo clip from trailer with sam breaking the bug bot and it might have a little satellite on it
http://planetlynx.blogspot.com/2009/02/new-transformers-2-trailer.html
Just to let you guys know, Don Murphy let the DM.net stooges know that they are showing the trailer on Entertainment Tonight... err tonight for US fans. Make sure to tune in! :D
ReplyDeleteWhat about the letters in, :From Director Michael Bay and exec prod. Steven Spielberg" that rotate?
ReplyDeleteAHHH the crutch is a Plane Landing gear! I sware look at it. YOU JUST CANT SEE THE WHEEL BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIP STRUT! thats works as Shock absorber for the wheel
ReplyDeleteHere is too links SO LOOK for the TOP OF the wheel at the bottom of the landing strut.
http://www.jetzoneusa.com/images/192045618.jpg
http://www.bvmjets.com/JetKits/s_bandit/lg.jpg
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE! hehe Sweet!
OK! I SET UP MY PICS TO SHOW YOU WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
ReplyDeleteHERE IS THE LINK FOR BOTH.
Pictures!!!
http://webpages.charter.net/wampler56/lg.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/wampler56/JetfireCane1.jpg
I told that "boo" idiot a few posts back that scorpinok was attacking jetfire, but now he can see for him self the fuck bag.
ReplyDelete"Scorpio said...
ReplyDeleteFuck now that i see screen shots i can see what might mess up this film. Here are a few things Warning may include spoilers:
1. Jetfire as an old twat will be stupid especialy if he can transform into a flash new jet.
2.All three arcee bots seem to have Unicycle robot forms.
3.Devastator has 4 eyes
4.Ravage has 3 eyes (Two black ones on side and the red eye in the middle)
5.The fallen has no vissible weapons and isnt on Fire
6.The film might not explain how scorponok re-grew his tail
7.Again the plot is the same Sam finds out something and is chased by Decepticons with only Bumblee bee helping him"
1. An SR71 blackbird is not a flash new jet. Its very old and had its first flight in 1964. New my ass.
2. Well one definately has, they might have legs as well but prefere to use wheels. And they might transform together so thats always a plus.
3 & 4. No comment, i dont even know what your worried about. They dont look terrible and you should at least be happy that your getting a freking 100+ foot gestalt and another beastformer
5. Superman pwns and he doesnt have any visible weapons. Come to think of it Optimus prime pwns and he doesnt have any visible weapons. Megatron from movie 1 didnt have any visible weapons until he needed to use them. I think it was only ironhide that had weapons showing always. It might not even have been the fallen, might have just been another protoform. If it is the fallen they probably wouldnt waste the flames on a trailer he wouldnt really be able to have flames comming up through sand would he the sand would have just extinguished it.
6. Or the film might explain how he grew his tail back. You dont even get to see his full tail so how do you know its grown back.
7. Who cares about sam. When optimus is gettin his ass kicked by the RH400, Megatron and the fallen.
So scorpio dont worry man. The movie is gonna be awsome, if you think bad about it no matter how good it is you wont like it. Flash new jet ah, nice one :D.
"6.The film might not explain how scorponok re-grew his tail"
ReplyDeleteThey explained that in the first movie, Regenerative armor etc... go watch it.. go!
Are you talking to me or scorpio
ReplyDelete6.The film might not explain how scorponok re-grew his tail
ReplyDelete1 the first movie explained it
2 you didnt even see the end of his tail in the trailer, only like half
3 i know its seems a very important question but scorpinok isnt exactly the main character by any stretch of the imagination
Scorpio you seemed to know your stuff at the beginning but now you just appear to be a common noob
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upnZfhlCJFw
ReplyDeleteJetfire has the cane. He is the jeriatric robot. I know a lot of you knew that. However some noobs like "Boo" and others didnt.
I wonder if there's a hint or clue in the way the Decepticon insignia is 'formed' at the end. It's as if it's made up from shattered shards of glass. The slow-mo looks cool too. Just an observation. Yep it looks like a landing gear used as the 'crutch', I just don't buy that story, whoever it is. Regardless of how old a robot may be... I doubt they'd rely on a leaning post to get by.
ReplyDeleteI love how little we know about this movie. I almost spoiled the first movie for myself but reading up so much (mostly on this blog). Although I've kept looking every day for updates I think Bay's done a great job in keeping it all under wraps. I just they don't go and blow it now by revealing too much especially as they've done so well to hide it. By this time for TF1 we'd seen almost all CGI renders for the TFs (probably for fan approval/reaction as Prime's design was WAY off to start with). I just hope said CGIs get released straight after the movie cos no way in hell can anyway take in all the detail there's gonna be... it'll all be moving too fast. Hoping for lots more transformations from 'afar' this time... where the whole robot can be seen (like 'Scavanger here'... not just close ups).
Devastator-wise, I think it's cool each component doesn't have a 'full' robot mode; that suggests half the battle for the Autobots... keeping the 6/7 components apart from each other preventing the merge. This way damage can be 'minimised', compared to what will happen when the 6/7 parts get their hands on each other! When they do merge tho, I think it'll only happen once as too expensive to animate over and over, and I think the head we've already seen here will be the head of the overall gestalt. Other components may not even have heads in individual forms.
Bring on the HD/HQ!!
I just saw the 1:38 mark on my 47 inch HD T.V. and I am telling ya right now it IS the fallen...
ReplyDeleteThe first movie did explain the TFs ability to 'heal' leading to regrowing a tail. Doesn't anyone recall:
ReplyDelete"it's like some kind of self-regenerating molecular armour!"
That's how it grows back. Also, in sequal/prequel comic RoS, S7 mention how the 'NBEs' are able to 'grow'/generate ammo/bullets when firing @ Starscream like we can hair & finger-nails... "hardly seems fair does it?!"
Wonder if Frenzy make's a cameo?? In the same RoS comic Starscream retrieves him from Hoover Dam. He get's taken back to Cybertron as he holds data on the structure of the Allspark, that's how Starscream planned to rebuild it, by reading Frenzy's databanks so he should definitely be 'functional' in the beginning.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteJust to let you guys know, Don Murphy let the DM.net stooges know that they are showing the trailer on Entertainment Tonight... err tonight for US fans. Make sure to tune in! :D
Thanx for the heads up I looked at it and they showed some parts but not the whole trailer...They are having a special about it on Monday so be sure to watch...
"I told that "boo" idiot a few posts back that scorpinok was attacking jetfire, but now he can see for him self the fuck bag."
ReplyDelete"Jetfire has the cane. He is the jeriatric robot. I know a lot of you knew that. However some noobs like "Boo" and others didnt."
Big words from someone without a name that can't spell. Also, since I posted one of the first descriptions and am one of the only people on this site that saw the 2k digital trailer and not some inferior youtube crap you can't say anything for sure. It'll be awesome when you have to eat your hat come June.
Troll.
I just watched some of the scenes Entertainment tonight showed, I slowed them down on my DVR and that Decepticon in the Desert that attacks the soldiers is the Fallen, he was glowing red and I saw his face clearly.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing I noticed, right before he arrives, there is a ball of lightning, similar to what was seen in the Terminator movies before he would time travel, again, after slowing it down with the DVR, there was a ball of lightning, then all of a sudden the Fallen appears
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThey should have made Kup the old-timer with his funny war stories from the cartoon movie. "This reminds me of the time..."
Oh well.. that would have been great!
2/13/2009 Michael didnt want to pay enough energon goodies other wise your old pal would have flown to earth and believe me Lad i have alot of stories since the great war...
Watching the trailer in HD on a 40 inch LCD is a big difference, you can clearly see that the Fallen Teleported there
ReplyDeletewhere did you find it in HD?
ReplyDeleteParts of the trailer were shown on entertainment tonight, in HD
ReplyDeletei don't really know what to make of what is going to happen in ROTF. guess no one will really know until we actually get to see the movie, but i can say one thing if optimus gets knocked off im done. unless there is something concrete he would be back im out.
ReplyDeleteLittle bug with satellite that sam breaks, dare I say Insecticon??
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteYou are right Scorpio.
Damn it! I didn't even think of a spotlight, stupid....@#$%......$*&^&#!
-Johnny
Scorpio says:
Thanks i had to rewatch the trailer after i saw it first time aswell to be sure.
Anonymous said...
"6.The film might not explain how scorponok re-grew his tail" They explained that in the first movie, Regenerative armor etc... go watch it.. go!
Scorpio says:
I know it mentions regenerative armor but if that is the case why do they need ratchet? The only thing he seems capable of fixing is a voice imparement. I still would like a tiny bit of explanation even if it is only released by bay and not in the film.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteScorpio you seemed to know your stuff at the beginning but now you just appear to be a common noob
He doesnt seem like a noob he is saying good stuff most of the time. Also seeing jetfire with a crutch would be stupid why would a robot need a crutch anyway? They cant get older. Th only explanation is that one of his legs may be broken or rusting.
Ok, seriously, is the theory that one of Arcee's alts is a unicycle. I honestly cant see anything there that looks like one. If you guys are talking about the vehicle on the left then honestly i think it looks like a half transformed motorcycle that hasn't quite landed.
ReplyDeleteagree with t prime
ReplyDeleteTedimus and kryptonian, if you see it in 2K it's apparent all three are riding one wheel when transformed.
ReplyDeleteu guys are a bunch of F%@^@^rs this is going to be the best movie ever stop thinkin about the flaws and just enjoy the f^@%$^@ movie !!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this has been said already, but has anyone thought that this "unicycle" part of Arcee is merely a regular motorcycle doing a 'wheelie' for a brief moment? (not to be confused with the annoying Transformer ;))
ReplyDeleteGood trailer, but could people up thread please remember the difference between a 'satellite' and a 'satellite dish' ?
ReplyDeleteYES Just enjoy everything. I am just happy to see a robot transform even if it is a simple pedal bike. I just want more positive info and as long as prime does not die, everything will be SWELL.
ReplyDelete"If you guys are talking about the vehicle on the left then honestly i think it looks like a half transformed motorcycle that hasn't quite landed."
ReplyDeletethats what i was thinkng. i highly doubt that a unicycle bot could go as fast a an audi. has anyone thought that maybe "arcee" isnt all three bikes? i hold onto the thought that shes only one of them and theres other females.
That would be HOT. Now that the trailer has been cleaned up you can really tell it is not a face but just debris falling from the explosions.
ReplyDeleteOk guys... listen i have watch this trailer in almost every way fast, HD, slow motion, even frame by frame... and Arcee is clearly moving in a unicycle form... both wheels come together.
ReplyDeleteSo she is def a bike and def has a unicycle mode... does she have another robot form? who knows...
if any one needs proof,,, i will gladly send or up load frame by frame shots (HD from 1st trailer and recorded HD from 2nd)
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if you go frame by frame that CGI "head" in question is just the barrels or tubes or whatever from the construction site being thrown around. Combination of that and the lighting from the spotlight creates a trick on the eyes. You can also see the barrels in the shot (aerial) as he is transformering.
ReplyDeleteI think a lot of you are missing an important point regarding Jetfire. If he is old and rickety, it's because his body is old and rickety. He could scan one of the latest examples of secret millitary vehicles and he'd be that shiny ship, he'd just be a geezer as a robot.
ReplyDeletewell i just checked out a high def freeze of scorponok leaping at the robot holding himself up on whatever that is.... anyone else see the glowing red lines on the arm ? and that piece on the side of his hip... it matches a similar piece on the cgi pic of the supposed "fallen" glowing red lines in the arm are potential clues as well....maybe even proof that the "fallen" is jetfires protoform before he reformats into the sr-71 .. i also think that it is silly for a robot to have a cane...perhaps he is just picking himself up from a prior attack ? guess we shall see
ReplyDeletemaybe the thing that is being held has been ripped off another robot. If jetfire is old and is based on the G1 skyfire then he is going to be a cool bot just like skyfire was. We cant give jetfire a bad rep until we see what he can do. If he is old, he is wise.
ReplyDeletein the first picture that looks like a face, i saw the HD version and those big pipes. Thats what made the face
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