Sunday, May 03, 2009

Transformer Candy, Trailer Commentary and Soundwave?

Just a few odds and ends.

Here are screenshots from the trailer from the 2:07 point that flashes so quickly before Devastator sequence that is easy to miss. Provided by Joe (thanks), he (and I) wonder if that is a quick shot of Soundwave, with the face shape and crown shaped head it makes me think it just might be.

It appears M&Ms' Transformer promotion is starting to make its way to stores. Stephan provided pictures (thanks) of the candy wrappers for after enjoying the contents. Checking out mms.com it seems that their online plans have not been enabled yet.

Empire has posted a "commentary" that inserts relevant comments to screenshots from the new trailer. A few of the comments are below and the whole thing can found here.
- "This one's apocalyptic," grins Bay. "The last movie had a threat to a little non-descript city; this one impacts the whole world. It's nuts."
- Two of the new additions to the Autobot team can be seen here, behind Bumblebee. Called Skids and Mudflap (aka "The Twins"), they are hybrid cars who can transform separately or combine into one big 'bot, and were actually dreamed up by Bay himself. "I had the idea to introduce these two dumb little Transformers," he explains. "They're brothers who are really stupid and argue with each other all the time - they're great for kids."
[Note that Bay doesn't comment on the combined form so this is not official confirmation, but I think this is Empire's reference to the theory that the Ice Cream Truck seen on set is the Twins early vehicle mode]
- These ancient symbols play a key role in the plot. "We're going to show you that the hieroglyphics in the pyramids are actually pictures of Transformers," says diBonaventura. "The movie actually opens before the pyramids were built. We tie the Transformers into the beginnings of civilisation."
- "You've got to push yourself out of the comfort zone," says producer Ian Bryce. "The effects have to top what we did before - and top anything the audience has ever seen before." "Optimus has 10,000 moving parts," chips in Farrar, "and we've got robots in this with five times more than that!"
- Meet Jetfire, a doddery old Autobot voiced by John Turturro. "He's a cranky, forgetful old man," says Bay. "He's running out of Energon, which keeps him going. When he falls down he creaks and he doesn't transform well - it's like arthritis."
[Turturro voicing Jetfire has not been officially confirmed but probably true]
- Devastator hoovers up the Sahara in the final battle. "I personally thought the ending of the first movie was pretty weak," admits Bay. "For one thing, I had to shoot the city battle on five separate blocks, which made it confusing and hard to follow. But the climax here is much clearer in terms of the landmarks and what the endgame is. And it's a really cool scene. You'll never have seen anything like it before."

93 comments:

  1. No, its just the fallen, sw has a visor, and he doesnt have the the chest light thingy.

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  2. WHAT.

    Soundwave has a damn VISOR. Not two extremely separate eyes. He's also a very light silver and blue, not black.

    I prefer calling that Blackout (if he's gained a finger), partially transformed Sideways, or just a generic Decepticon protoform who can never be identified because there's nothing to identify him to. It's not the Fallen, either.

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  3. I think it's Blackout mainly because the head looks exactly like him and because I notice quite a bit of rust on his face. Although the fingers make me wonder if it's somebody else.

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  4. no way that is soundwave, If you look close it seams that the robot is old and beat up, maybe rust? I think it's either Blackout, or a protoform, possibly a flashback scene on cybertron? If it is soundwave it has to be his protoform version, the toy for soundwave is a protoform and this character looks nothing like it

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  5. yeah it's blackout (he has too many screen times)

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  6. it's Blackout!
    Check it out: http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/2702/blackout.jpg

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  7. It is NOT Soundwave or Blackout.

    In the trailer Blackout is seen with 2 arms with his chopper blade in his right hand while Prime is in the air and about to hit Sam but....the part where Prime uses the double blade Blackout is missing said right arm. My guess is that Blackout doesn't make it out of the forest area scene but Screamer & Megs do.

    As for the WAVE he will have his visor which is identified by the front of his deluxe toy box {TFLIVE---you should link up that pic for comparison}

    Final conclusion............

    Un-named protoform robot that doesn't have or need an alt. mode.

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  8. My thoughts is The Fallen himself. His face look similar to Blackout or Soundwave or even Protoform Decepticon. It's The Fallen.

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  9. blackout protoform it is but like bay says there's going to be a lot of robots and the mix matching swapping heads hands body parts colour and so many other things is the way to go to make robots look different and easy to kill off characters at the same time keep cost down and make it look like the art team took a lot of time coming up with all new characters when really there recycled.


    by the way this might be the best way to imagen blackout protoform as a new character without taking the time to look back at his past.

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  10. Hmmmmm...........the first pic w/the bright light doesn't give you much detail but...after studying the second a bit more with Blackout comparison shots I'd say it's him.

    Disregard my post above about it being a regular protoform. I still think he doesn't survive the double-bladed Prime :)

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  11. 1 billion percent not michael bay's cameo

    1 million percent not the fallen

    1 thousand percent not soundwave

    1 hundred percent not sideways

    my money is on blackout or a cannon fodder bot

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  12. The head is 100% Blackout. If it is the same bot or a protoform that looks exactly like him I don't know, but my money is on it being the original Blackout beeing revived.

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  13. I think is one of these TF

    http://imajr.com/Transformers--Revenge-of-the-Fallen-Theatrical-Trailer-1080p-15-16-48-1432269

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  14. "Called Skids and Mudflap (aka "The Twins"), they are hybrid cars who can transform separately or combine into one big 'bot, and were actually dreamed up by Bay himself."

    so the twins do combine right?

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  15. Looking at the link in the post two spots above mine and remembering the first trailer,I bet it's whatever bot(s) land in the area near the pyramids. I would guess the army happened to be near by an investigated it and the bots that landed didn't have time to scan. Notice that the pic in the link show to bots that look almost identical. This wast the same for the Autobots before they scanned.

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  16. if you look at screen 1:47 and 2:07 in the trailer if that is sound wave cause the images seem to match , he got blasted good in screen 1:47

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  17. It is BLACKOUT. jus look
    at a pic of BLACKOUTS face.
    they both have the same Crown, the mouth
    is the same as well, SW has a Visor. cnt be the
    FALLEN either. eyes are way different.
    its BLACKOUT.

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  18. The Twins combine. This is perfect. I can see the advert now.

    Youve seen 2 0f the ugliest transformers ever, now for a limited time only you can get the toys with the added feature of if they dont look ugly enough you can combine them to form something even uglier.

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  19. The image of Soundwave is Blackout or Grindor (If thats his new name/form)

    I knew the twins combined. If you look here:
    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/new-revenge-of-the-fallen-combiner-assortment-listing-167477/

    There is a listing for a new combiner. It isnt Bruticus or Superion so who could it be. The long awaited Transforming Devastator set or maybe Bay`s favourite charecters will get there own giant toy. I can almost imagine it now (Shudders) :)

    Also here are some Robot hero`s from ROTF:
    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/revenge-of-the-fallen-robot-heroes-new-images-167478/

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  20. "Anonymous said...

    if you look at screen 1:47 and 2:07 in the trailer if that is sound wave cause the images seem to match , he got blasted good in screen 1:47"


    But if you look off to the left in the background you can see another con that looks identical to the one in the foreground so I doubt it's him. They both get blasted at the same time.

    If you look in the background of the con that's reaching out (I'm thinking it might be Sideways), there's a shadow on the wall to the lower right of him. Looks like someone standing behind an open car door. The guy in the shadow also moves slightly in the trailer.

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  21. Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    Blackout
    The head is Blackouts. P.s Prime kills Blackout

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  22. Alright well others have already said it but I also agree that I'm very sure it is Blackout's face.

    I did some sketches of his face in the past plus you can get real close to it in the first TF game if you press the character against a wall and rotate the camera around.

    The hand however does not look like Blackout's. His fingers were much thicker and if I remember correctly he only had two fingers and a thumb so it's either someone else's hand or he got a new one or something.

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  23. the point is its blackouts head different robot.

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  24. lol if skids and mudflap combine together they could actually end up formin some kickass bot but then they go back to there goofy selves when heyre apart.

    definately blackout, unless there is actually a visor and the red eyes are stading out for effect(you can see a slight v kinda shape above his eyes)

    MAC

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  25. Israeli Sniper5/03/2009 6:28 AM

    ^ you stupid or something? the twins are fuglies as it is. It will be FUBAR when they combine to a bigger bot.

    You're on my scope now, MAC.

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  26. Dear God. It's not Blackout! It's Sideways. Look at the toy, the trailer, ... it's definitely Sideways.

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  27. I think there is a good chance of that being Soundwave. Remember Jazz? He had a visor too but it only came down during battles. These pics with a visor = Soundwave. Just because he's blue as a toy, doesn't mean he'll be blue in the movie. I don't believe he's Blackout. His back isn't big enough.

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  28. It is SOUNDWAVE ...fuckers Jazz did have the same visor just use in sunny days :) check the trailer again he is fighting beside the constructicon with the army he got shot hes the one between the pilars in Egypt check hes cannon just like the toy one ;)

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  29. Oh God, it's NOT SOUNDWAVE!!! It looks nothing like him. Jesus Christ! Look at the freakin' toy!!!

    http://images.toywizard.net/0001/takaratomy-rd-04-soundwave-3.jpg

    Look at the face, the arms, the back, the chest, ... It's nothing like soundwave!!! Neither is it Blackout, because it's SIDEWAYS!!!

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  30. NOT BLACKOUT! WRONG HAND DESIGN FOR BLACKOUT - ITS SIDEWAYS!!

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  31. Why would Sideways have the EXACT same head-design as Blackout?

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  32. its barricade . . .

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  33. its not the exact same head design as blackout, what the fuck are you talkin about

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  34. blackout sure lost a lot of weight for that shot if its him.

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  35. ITS BLACKOUT, LOOK THE HEAD DESIGN IS THE SAME, THE CROWN PART AT THE TOP HAS THE EXACT SAME SHAPED HOLE AS IN THIS PIC:

    http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/89608-1/blackout+_head_.jpg

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  36. ITS BARRICADET, LOOK THE HEAD DESIGN IS THE SAME, THE CROWN PART AT THE TOP HAS THE EXACT SAME SHAPED HOLE AS IN THIS PIC:

    http://www.pjlighthouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/barricade-transformers-decepticon-decepticon.jpg

    gawd, like any of you know.

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  37. I really dont like the fact that Jetfire is some old piece of crap. I hope they dont make him some useless bot.

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  38. looks like blackout to me...you can compare the head with the scene from the first movie when duhammel {sorry dont know his movie name} shines that green light on blackouts arm and he turns around to see who was shining it...looks very much alike

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  39. At Anonymous 10:13 AM :

    Dude, the robot from the trailer has a different face. Blackout his face is more round and the trailer-bot's face is way more oval. It's 100% Sideways and don't even try to deny it.

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  40. I am denying it - you can match shapes on the crown in both pictures, its BLACKOUT - it amazes me that people are still thinking its Barricade/Sideways/whoever when it looks absolutely nothing like them in any way at all ever! Its not Sideways, the faces don't match...

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  41. OMG, you're an ignorant fool. It looks nothing like Blackout. And a lot of transformers look the same. Damn, how can you even consider that it's Blackout? Do you have a pile of shit in your eyes or something?

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  42. its ultra magnus

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  43. no it's definitely optimus prime. they punched him so hard in the trailer. only michael bay knows what happened to him in the whole movie:D

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  44. it's the same bot as seen here:
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/Sfp5IYup3HI/AAAAAAAAF60/z7CRWiPBR4U/s1600-h/TF2TrailerTwoStills15.jpg

    i don't think it's blackout as there isn't the whole bulk above his head.

    Soundwave, nahhh don't think it's him, looks too generic to be him.

    Sideways, well it doesn't really look anything like his toy, looks a bit big to be him also.

    the thing is he looks like a protoform, and if Soundwave is giving everyone their alt modes on the way down, i'd doubt he's part of the initial decepticon invasion.

    My money is on him being one of The Fallen's monkeyboys, maybe those transformers arriving in Egypt are The Fallen's re-inforcements.

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  45. Black out, Soundwave have a visor

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  46. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SXTlnhX9x5I/AAAAAAAAEqY/Xrhm0XQAOvM/s1600-h/TF2MoreAudi7.jpg

    It's Sideswipe. If you look at the face, if you look in the far right bottom, you see a reflection of someone next to a car door. With the walls, it looks to me like he is in a Tunnel reaching for Sam in bumblebot.

    The one that said it could be sideways, (Two Posts up) yes he looks too big to be him, but maybe it's just the angle...

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  47. Ya its not Blackout. His heads a little smaller than that. Its probable one of those bots that are unnamed or unknown. Anyway, thats just my opinion.

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  48. Hmm, looks like one of the bio teachers in my school ;) Naw just kidding. My bet is either Blackout or random protoform. It sounds plausible that Soundwave could just have a visor like Jazz, but that wouldn't stay true to his character in all other series.

    The twins shouldn't combine, there are enough. We have Devastator, Prime/Jetfire combo, the 3 motorbike girls possibly, and then these two. That would be way too much. How would you like a Skidflap or a Mudkid? Sounds like Pokemon no?

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  49. "snortpocket said...
    its ultra magnus"

    Spoiler warning next time please.

    and do we have conformation M&Ms are in the movie?

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  50. its Galvatron

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  51. RED EYES = DECEPTICON...

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  52. its a Quintison

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  53. its pikachu

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  54. It's not Soundwave, definitely a Protoform. He is just bare Cybertronian metal

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  55. A DEEEEEEEEECEPTICON Protoform that is. One of three I believe that crash during Egypt Battle. Cuz two get blasted in the Trailer.

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  56. BTW, How cool was Fallens Face :D

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  57. i think it's sideways, soundwave is apparently in space, why would the one shot of him be on the ground?

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  58. I don't care how much that face and the face of blackout looks. There is nothing else on that body to say it's blackout. The huge thing over blackout's shoulders is gone from that pic.

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  59. That is definitely Blackout; I wonder what he's reaching for. I hope he's not dying in that scene because normally, when characters die on screen, they reach their arm out for help.

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  60. so far the winning entry is Quintison.

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  61. http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/7/72/Quint.jpg

    its a Quintison! I'm right, anyone who says any different is wrong! :)

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  62. http://www.empireonline.com/features/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-trailer-breakdown/14.asp

    suggest that Optimus will die.

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  63. AND WHY IN DA HELL EVERYTIME I TRY TO BACKCLICK ON THIS SITE THAT DAMN CRAP FROM E.T. CUES UP AND PLAYS??? LOL

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  64. yeah, i really wish the owner would remove the ET clip, it makes the site hard to load sometimes with it constantly trying to play.

    thought it was just me.

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  65. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO...

    THAT'S MICHEAL BAY's CAMEO..

    SAYING "HOLLA"..

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  66. This pic: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/Sf0tD6ISz2I/AAAAAAAAF-0/YToo9d6OmaI/s1600-h/TF2SoundwaveShot2.JPG

    VS

    This pic: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/Sfp5IYup3HI/AAAAAAAAF60/z7CRWiPBR4U/s1600-h/TF2TrailerTwoStills15.jpg

    Similar faces but not the same Transformer.

    I think it's a sharkticon.

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  67. soundwave possibly? showest footage @ 1:51-:52

    http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/p00p_m0nsta/pepp.jpg

    http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/p00p_m0nsta/pep.jpg

    soundwave toy : http://images.toywizard.net/0001/takaratomy-rd-04-soundwave-3.jpg

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  68. Helmet almost seems to match....

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  69. We were told that the movie opens before the pyramids were built. Any transformer at that time would be a protoform since they would have nothing to scan. I think its just a generic transformer from the past who probably has no significance to the events in the present. Unnamed and unimportant.

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  70. I agree that the head is exactly like Blackout's. If you look at any reasonably close up pictures of him that is exactly what his head looks look. I doubt they would make another Transformer that so closely resembles him.

    The fingers are definitely not Blackout's normal fingers though(if anyone remembers where he grabs the computer server thing at the beginning of the first movie). Perhaps it is Blackout in protoform? Possibly a cut to back before he has taken the form of the helicopter?

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  71. That's Thundercracker, loyal soldier of Starscream.

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  72. That is Blackout without a doubt. the head is exactly the same as the first movie. Not to mention, the Soundwave toys have a visor, not two eyes.

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  73. what are you talking about?!!!!!! , he is blackout face with his crown , i love it

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  74. YOU KNOW THAT IS BLACKOUT CAUSE YOU CAN SEE SOME RUST ON HIS FOREHEAD SO IT HAS TO BE BLACKOUT CUASE IT IS DEFINITLY NOT SIDEWAYS OR BARRICADE JUST LOOK AT THE 2ND PICTURE AND YOU CAN SEE THE RUST REAL CLEAR

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  75. ans also to add to this remember he just got done battleing prime so he might be missing his propellers that go on his back thats why there is no bulk behind his head doh

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  76. I WANNA SEE JOLT WE HAVENT SEEN TO MUCH OF HIM EXCEPT FOR SOME 30 SEC. SPOTS I WANNA SEE MORE OF THE THREE BIKES ALSO

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  77. Israeli Sniper5/04/2009 4:04 AM

    ^ fuckin chill the fuck out & wait for June 24 you fuckin American!

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  78. thats right i am a f@#$#%#$ american what of it bitch

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  79. 'The fingers are definitely not Blackout's normal fingers though(if anyone remembers where he grabs the computer server thing at the beginning of the first movie). Perhaps it is Blackout in protoform? Possibly a cut to back before he has taken the form of the helicopter?'

    I think you are onto something. If you look at the forest fight scene where he is walking towards Prime, you clearly see his left hand with three big fingers just like he had in the first movie. In the closeup his hand is completely different, while the head is exactly the same.

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  80. It's Blackout, because it is the exact same as in the first movie. The End.

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  81. It's freakin' Sideways. And I'm gonna freakin' laugh at all of you guys who think it's Blackout the day the movie is released. I can't believe you guys think it's him because there are a few similarities with his head. His head is a completely different shape. Almost every transformers have that freakin crown on their head!

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  82. people say they hate israeli sniper, but i see where he is coming from every time. just don't always say it.

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  83. ok so you're a moron too, thanks for clearing that up

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  84. you aren't any better than mr. sniper there.

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  85. my posts are the best posts

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  86. If you need more proof that it is Blackout, this is the art from the toy box. It isn't an actual shot of the 3D model from the movie, but it is still pretty obviously the same.

    http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/89608-1/blackout+_head_.jpg

    If you don't feel like following a link from an anonymous poster (understandable) then just google image search 'blackout head' and it should be one of the first images that comes up.

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  87. the above post is correct - ITS BLACKOUT!!!

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  88. god you are all raging idiots...its barricade. go watch transformers 1 if you have to because you get a super close up of his face. look at how he looks IN THE MOVIE not some photo of a crap toy made by a 7 year old in china, not some screen cap, the movie. There. That might shut you up for a few minutes.

    CB

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  89. the mouths don't match - its not Barricade, you "raging idiot"

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  90. You guys need to get laid, BIG TIME. I love the first movie, and this one looks as good, or better.

    But a bunch of grown men, fighting over the internet over a transformer being blackout or soundwave?

    You guys are fucking losers!

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  91. You seriously think that all the posters on this forum are grown men? Ha ha...

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  92. Its Voltron!
    yeah, yeah!


    Sangiovese

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