Sunday, March 22, 2009

Ask Orci: Nimoy Voicing A Transformers 2 Character?

Time for another summary of Transformers writer Roberto Orci's Q&A threads on the Don Murphy and TFW2005 forums. It is about two weeks worth of answers and covers early plans for Transformers I, mostly cryptic comments on Transformers 2 story lines, will the writers return for Transformers 3 and potential voice for The Fallen. My comments are in parenthesis.

Will Barricade's disappearance be explained in ROTF?
Explained is a very specific kinda word... implied may be more like it

Will you guys seriously rethink about staying on?
Time for fresh blood!

Just to be clear, what is your reason for not writing it? If the other main players comes back and they don't see a need for fresh blood, then why would you?
Not clear who is coming back yet, but the main reason we would move on is because we risk getting stale and comfortable. If you only sing one song for too long, you miss the opportunity to sing news songs. We'll see.
(It should be noted that Orci and Alex Kurtzman both indicated they would not return to write Transformers 2. TF3 is three years away so plenty of time to change their mind again. Honestly, usually this kind of talk in Hollywood translates to "how much will you pay me to return?" as don't want to appear to eager.)

who thought of the name for the movie? you, michael bay, alex, or someone else?
Alex.

how many fans do you think saw past Michael's "no Megatron" announcement? And second, is he aware that his comment about Megs only appearing in a flashback kind of contradicts Hugo Weaving's hint that the Allspark shard has something to do with Megatron's resurrection?
god love him
(Probably good idea to not answer directly.)

Did the fallen enslave the Egyptians to build the pyramids (which actually are space bridges)?
Hmm. Getting warm

Did the Egyptians seal the fallen within his own design?
Also very warm but not quite.

Did you ever intend for Blackout and Brawl to speak?
Yes.

Would you consider a giant battle in the Grand Canyon?
We actually had a giant battle in the Grand Canyon in the very first draft of the first movie.

Is there really still time to add stuff and how much stuff can be added at this point?
On the first movie, we were re-writing dialogue until about 2 weeks before release!

can you let us know how many Autobots can fly in the movie?
very few
(So basically 1 or more. My guess is only 1 and that is Jetfire.)

I know very early in development Mike Bay said that there would be a geriatric robot. Was it already set there and then that Jetfre would be that bot, or did you and the writers/Bay decide later that Jetfire would suit that type of character?
We decided Jetfire would fit after the idea came up to have a geriatric robot.

Would you consider this movie the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Transformer movie line (dark, feeling of hopelessness, crazy reveal/twists/turns)?
yes

Bay mentioned in passing that about 40 bots are in the movie. Sound about right or less/more?
sounds about right

Will The Fallen have any dialogue?
Yes.

Can you name the 3 scenes that were filmed in IMAX format?
Yes.
(The danger of asking closed questions.)

Will Prime survive the movie?
Prime's spirit can never die.
(Nice non-answer, no details but gives a sense of impending doom for Prime).

Did you decide to not have Megatron renamed Galvatron for the general audience?
yes.

Similarly, did you intend Sideways (Audi R8) to be Barricade?
We'll see

which of the 2 movies was more difficult to get along with the story.
Movie 1 was the hardest thing have ever worked on. Period. Nobody could imagine what it was, everyone thought it was just a silly cartoon or a toy commercial, the studio wasn't sure if the robots should talk, we had to come up with a story that would attract someone like Bay, and we had budgetary constraints that made it necessary to generate a significant human story which was counterintuitive to some Transfans. By the second movie, the paradigm of the franchise was clear.

what are your feelings towards the idea of Leonard Nimoy doing the voice of the Fallen?
Would love it. I actually talked to him about it, given the odd coincidence that he is Michael Bay's cousin through marriage, but fan outcry has also put Welker in the running.
(Who to support? Quite a conundrum for Transfans. Nimoy is the iconic Spock of Star Trek and part of Transformers past as the voice of Galvatron (and Unicron) for 1986's Transformers: The Movie while Welker is was the voice of Megatron, Galvatron, Soundwave and many others.)

106 comments:

  1. The studio wasnt sure if the robots should talk?

    Hah, oh man I dont think I could handle a job in Hollywood. I can only imagine the retards running things around there.

    This article hopefully puts to rest the fallen is jetfire theory.

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  2. I take that he means barricades disappearance is implied that he is the Audi? I guess it's pretty obvious what happens to him in the movie, just have to wait 3 more months to find that one out... dang

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  3. Didn't Orson Welles do the voice of Unicron??

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  4. "Didn't Orson Welles do the voice of Unicron??"

    Yeah what he said!

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  5. Yes Orson Welles did Unicron. It was his last and final Role of any kind before he died.

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  6. G1 Fan boys watch out..

    "Will Prime survive the movie?
    Prime's spirit can never die.
    (Nice non-answer, no details but gives a sense of impending doom for Prime)."

    Prime is going to get his butt kicked and die.

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  7. anonymous at 9:25 pm is right! Leonard did not voice unicron that was actually oron welles last role before he passed away. Now through some care ful thought i think that it would be best for Leonard to have the role as it would produce some more hype for the movie, I can imagine me going to the theater then seeing that leornard does a voice and say "hey,wasnt that spock?and galvatron?".While frank welker would be nice.
    I have one question, has the fallen ever been in
    telivision show of transformers? cause if not than we really dont now what the fallen is actually supposed to sound like, alowwing Bay and Orci to hire whoever the heck they want to,
    all in alll i say, I dont know who should voice him.

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  8. yay, optimus is not goign to die :D

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  9. Anonymous said...
    I have one question, has the fallen ever been in
    telivision show of transformers? cause if not than we really dont now what the fallen is actually supposed to sound like, alowwing Bay and Orci to hire whoever the heck they want to,
    all in alll i say, I dont know who should voice him.
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    the fallen only appeared in TF comics

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  10. Friends, Bloggers, Countrymen---lend me your ears err I mean eyes.

    I'll start from the beginning--Michael Bay is related to Leonard Nimoy

    Nimoy's voice was used in original G-1

    Bay is directing RotF

    Orci & Kurtzman wrote the new Star Trek film that Nimoy will appear in

    Orci/Kurtz also wrote the script for RotF

    New RotF trailer will premier w/Star Trek

    NIMOY WILL VOICE A CHARACTER---GUARANTEED...

    It will be.....

    Jetfire!!!! {Turturro was just a stand-in voice durning filming}

    My personal opinion--the Fallen won't even have a speaking part--do you really want to hear him? What if they get it wrong. It would be like the white guy underneath Vader's cape doing the voice of Vader----EWWWW

    Welker will do the sounds of the Fallen---no voice

    SAVE THIS POST WHEN WE GET THE TRUTH ON THE 25TH ADMIN---I'll tell you guys where to send the "OMG--you were so totally right anonymous" letters to :)

    Robby
    Los Angeles

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  11. Whomever voices Fallen, it better be dark, dark, deep, deep, satanic voice, I better shit a brick wall at his every syllable.

    I fear our Autobot leader shall perish this summer (jury's still out on that), and I hope it's not a tear jerking scene, last thing anyone wants to see in a theater is a sobbing 17 year old.

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  12. Figures your from Los Angeles. If you had your way I bet non of the robots should have any dialogue. Get out of here with the fallen shouldn't have any dialogue.. are you nuts?

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  13. As long as Frank Welker voices Soundwave, I'm good. :)

    For the love of everything, don't have Turturro voice Jetfire! Jetfire needs someone with a gruff, deep, distinguished voice (Christopher Lee, Ian McKellan, even Sam Elliot without the cowboy accent). I think that they meant Turturro was merely the stand-in for Jetfire...I hope.

    It would be logical to have Nimoy in the film somehow, due to the various connections that that particular Anonymous stated.

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  14. Also, I beleive that having Brawl and Blackout speak would've added to the movie. Same with Bonecrusher having some speaking lines (rather than "SHOUT! GRUNT! ROAR!"). It would've just added some more personality to those characters. Even something short and cheesy like "Die, Autobot!", "Human germ!" or "Puny Autobot!"

    I would've loved it if Brawl, Blackout and Bonecrusher even got only 2 or 3 lines each! Just, say something!

    As for the voicing of the Fallen, as long as his AWESOME voice emminates throughout the theatre, causes the very fabric of the walls to shake and couses me to have a bowel movement, I'm good.

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  15. Okay---I'm ready for an attack after this one.

    When asked about Blackout & Brawl Orci said he intended on having them speak---so...

    Do you PERHAPS think that Blackout & Brawl will will be part of the sacrifice {w/speaking roles} in Megatrons Return. Why do I get the feeling he will have Blackouts blaster along with Brawls tank treads. So Orci would get his wish of having them speak

    OKAY-----THROW THE TOMATOES!!!!!

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  16. The Unicron comment, which may be incorrect, is based on a rather long standing rumor that Orson Wells died before completing all his voice work requiring Leornard Nimoy to step in and complete the work.

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  17. IS IT FEAR OR COURAGE THAT COMPELLS YOU FLESHLING??

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  18. love these interviews! we always get a little extra info out of Orci. love it!

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  19. If I was going to bet money I'd say an old robot would be voiced by an old actor and in this case that would "logically" be Leonard Nimoy.

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  20. im getting more and more excited with each passing day. are we getting another trailer soon? and how much different will it be?

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  21. Your never gettin this allspark

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  22. the fallen should be voiced by james earl jones.
    he's scared the world once, why shouldn't he do it again. nah it would be cool though. sam elliot would be awesome snice he has a stache and it would fit jetfire.

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  23. jetfire has a beard not a mustache

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  24. Orsen Welles was the voice of Unicron in the animated movie. Not Spock.

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  25. Isn't the Fallen going to have to be able to speak if he enslaved the Egyptians or something close to that he sure as heck didn't use sign language? besides once he is released he is gonna want to get back to whatever grand sceam he was working on befor he was imprisioned. Just an idea.

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  26. Oh SO unwise!!

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  27. I think that Leonard Nimoy will Voice the Fallen... have you heard him talk? he sounds like he smokes 3 cigars a day.. he would sound like some old codger, I just hope you hear stuff like "my Aching chassis" whatever an old bot like that would complain about.

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  28. I knew to this so please be kind. Why would Jetfire be falling and decading if the Fallen is supposed to be older than the entire cybertron race.

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  29. -Did the Egyptians seal the fallen within his own design?
    Also very warm but not quite.-

    My guess is the humans rebelled and The Fallen was found by the autobots and seeled in another dimension. Or the fallen completed the machine but it pulled him into another dimension.

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  30. Best question/answer ever:

    Can you name the 3 scenes that were filmed in IMAX format?
    Yes.

    Hahaha. I love Orci, he rules.
    The only line I'm really, really hoping to hear is the following:

    - Megatron, I have summoned you here for a purpose!
    - ... nobody summons Megatron...
    - Then it pleases me to be the first.

    But it's hard, if not impossible to include it into this movie, since Megatron is clearly the pawn of the Fallen already, and Unicron isn't even in the movie. Gahhh.. now that they built a totally new theate/cinema just across the street from my apartment I can't stand the waiting anymore.
    The leaks of the Jetfire-toy were sweet, now give us more!

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  31. How about we imagine the machine split "the Fallen" into 2 halves, one good (Jetfire) and one evil (the Fallen)? I know it's cliche but according to Orci, the Egyptians didn't quite seal him. And I remember somebody posting earlier about "the Fallen" being cloned. That's how I came to this theory.

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  32. That last comment was me BTW. It's just an alternate theory to my The Fallen/Jetfire being the same and not the same at the same time.

    W.W.W.

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  33. I knew it. Inside pyramid is a space bridge. Maybe the Fallen asked Egyptians build them so he could be released from his prison in other dimension. And because there was explained that 13 Ancients have visited on Earth long ago, is sure that they locked the fallen into that dimension. The Fallen is known as a servant of Unicron. But in the War Within, what was his only appereance, he was the only servant of Unicron. So, I think that Unicron wanted the Fallen to make Megatron and the Decepticons as antoher servants. But I think that the Fallen will be destroyed by combination of Optimus and Jetfire and in third film Unicron transforms Megatron to Glavatron. But remember: this is just theory, but still it's very believable.

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  34. I don't think Optimus will die in this movie. I think he will upgrade to a bigger Stronger version of himself. Maybe Jetfire loses his spark and insted of completly dying he gives himself to Optimus.

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  35. Welles died before he could complete recording all of his lines so Nimoy had to fill in. The difference is actually pretty noticeable if you're listening for it. Notably when Unicron makes the "GWAHHHH" noise.

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  36. thanks anonymous at 10:23 pm,so technically we dont KNOW what hes supposed to sound like,
    I say leornard voice jetfire, welker voice the fallen if he speaks. And you know I think is gonna voice arcee??MEGAN FOX!sarcasm.......

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  37. Now that I think about it. You have to get James Earl Jones to be The Fallen. He has the illest scary voice when applied right. Maybe get Anthony Hopkins to be Jetfire. (I like accents) Nimoy should be Uni if he makes an apperance in 3 or 4.

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  38. Essex at 11:34 am,that would be kinda cool, but we dont whether or not theres even going to be a fourth one, much less unicron being in it,and besides Idont think that leonard is going to survive till 2012, hes pretty old.....

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  39. Orson Welles voiced Unicron, but died during post-production. It was rumored and now seemingly confirmed that he didn't finish his reading for the movie and that Nimoy stepped in and they synthesized his voice to sound like Orson Welles.
    -Grimlock21

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  40. to add to my comment at 11:50, knowinig bays previous non g1 accurate moments, im guessing hell give unicron a completely new voice,one question did uicron speak in other carttons,armada,energon,cybertron, any of those????

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  41. Well, I know I saw him (Uni) in Beast Wars but I don't know about any of the others - maybe Cybertron.

    I agree with Essex's theory about Prime. I think he'll get a massive beatdown, but Jetfire will sacrifice himself to help Prime, thus the combining.

    My theory on the Fallen and Jetfire is that Jetfire was here early on as a disciple of the Fallen and that's when he decided he didn't like the whole evil lifestyle - he imprisons, or kills, the Fallen and then stays on earth ever since hiding out in various forms. The return of the Fallen brings him out of hiding.

    Yes, I'm aware that it's pointless to be coming up with "theories" about the story, but it's a good way to pass the time until the movie comes out.

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  42. theories are fine when people don't try to pass them off as real, or "this has to be the way." (thats usually where you can tell adult from child.)

    but Jetfire's bio contradicts your idea. he left cybertron in the era of autobot/decepticon civil war. so his history with earth is a bit more recent.

    i like the idea of sacrifice though, seems plausible.

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  43. @ The Cheif 12:10, I think all these theories are good for the franchise. I would think that the various writers across diffrent continuities look at them for inspiration if not information on what the fans needs and wants are.

    As far as The Optimus upgrade thing I think it is one of the better theories so far.

    I was thinking though. Shouldn't Vector Prime be slated to make an apperance in the 3rd film. He is one of the original 13, like the fallen.

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  44. Thanks TheChief, I thinks hes in armada and enrgon to, because i have an action figure called armada unicron. I had no clue he was in beast wars, but who voiced him???

    Munkeysama1297

    ps.the comments at 11:11,11:50,and 11:55 were me.Ive just been forgetting to sign my posts.:)

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  45. I laughed so hard at the answer to the three scenes in IMAX question, good one Mr Orci!

    "did uicron speak in other carttons,armada,energon,cybertron, any of those????"

    I think he did, but I don't remember him saying very much.

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  46. NIMOY WILL VOICE A CHARACTER---GUARANTEED... It will be..... Jetfire!!!! {Turturro was just a stand-in voice durning filming}

    My personal opinion--the Fallen won't even have a speaking part--do you really want to hear him? What if they get it wrong. It would be like the white guy underneath Vader's cape doing the voice of Vader----EWWWW


    You are right... I have seen the scene at the beging of Star Wars where Vader is holding up and strangling the Rebel guy on Leia's ship. They were using the actors voice before they did the voice over with James Earl Jones. Very "EWWWW".


    My theory on the Fallen and Jetfire is that Jetfire was here early on as a disciple of the Fallen and that's when he decided he didn't like the whole evil lifestyle - he imprisons, or kills, the Fallen and then stays on earth ever since hiding out in various forms. The return of the Fallen brings him out of hiding.

    I kind of like this theory, but if the Fallen is imprisoned back in Egyptian times, why does Jetfire wait to change into the SR-71 until at least 1998 (when the SR-71 was retired) or possible a Lockheed A-12 (which was retired in 1968 and placed into a museum). Where was he before that?

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  47. Anonymous 12:45 is right about Jetfire's bio which contradicts the theory about him being here with the Fallen, so that one's out.

    I only vaguely remember it, but Unicron was in Beast Wars briefly in either a flashback or some sort of vision or dream. Prime (as the ape) was strapped to a table looking up and Uni's big horned "mouth" was looking down on him. Uni did say something but I don't remember it clearly enough to figure out who might have done the voice and I'm too lazy right now to research it. ;)

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  48. i still want some more info on jolt, maybe a deluxe toy?

    t.t

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  49. The chief - I like your theory. Makes the most sense and sounds like something they would do for the movie. And it gives jetfire a reason to come out and play.
    Combining with prime to save his life would be awesome!

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  50. hey just a thought here...
    the egyptians worshiped the sun god ra and this could be the fallen as it looks fairly egyptian. from the colouring book it implies that the machine might destroy the sun so maybe that all got somrthing to do with each other.
    but then again i could be wrong, just a thought

    t.t

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  51. http://tformers.com/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-full-nest-organization-name-revealed/11222/news.html


    NEST - Networked Elements: Supporters and Transformers

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  52. Last issue of Alliance comic has now a preview
    http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0903/19/idwfirsts.htm

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  53. "Similarly, did you intend Sideways (Audi R8) to be Barricade?"
    How foolish question about Sideways. Bio explained that caharcter's name was Sideways back in Cybertron. he nad barricade are not same person.

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  54. The Prime Upgrade with Jetfire Theory was mine thank you..LOL, but it was.

    I keep thinking about Vector Prime. He should make an apperance in the 3rd film.

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  55. "hey just a thought here...
    the egyptians worshiped the sun god ra and this could be the fallen as it looks fairly egyptian. from the colouring book it implies that the machine might destroy the sun so maybe that all got somrthing to do with each other.
    but then again i could be wrong, just a thought
    t.t"

    Maybe, Fallen is trapped in the sun? The Fallen is an ancient transformer trapped in the sun eons ago, Fallen tried to get Megatron to rescue him with the Allspark (which was millions of years before the fight for the Allspark on Earth), but then gave up on Megatron after the Allspark was lost to the endless reaches of space and saw a little blue planet, with sentient life... "Sup Egyptians, wanna help me out?"

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  56. Also, Fallen = capable of mental suggestion and teleportation?

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  57. I have a theory about Unicron. Is true that the Allsaprk created in this story 13 first transformers, but Unicron is not creation of the Allspark. Sources have told that Unicron in other continuities Unicron was borned from energy called Angolomis. It's similar than the Allspark. Same energy also was used by Unicron in 86 movie to rebuilt Megatron as Galvatron (and Thundercrakcer, Skywarp and Insecticons as Scourge, Cyclonus and Sweeps).

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  58. Essex said...

    I don't think Optimus will die in this movie. I think he will upgrade to a bigger Stronger version of himself. Maybe Jetfire loses his spark and insted of completly dying he gives himself to Optimus.
    .........
    wow this idea would be brilliant. that scene would be epic. both jetfire and optimus are down and jetfire being the wise elder gives prime his spark. then you could have optimus return out of nowhere and just reek hell on either fallen or devastator.

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  59. Hell yeah Essex!! The Prime upgrade with Jetfire sounds really really good!!

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  60. Thanks Fellas. Appreciate it.
    I've been a fan since 84, and will be until...

    Well see how good it can get. The fans are the main component.

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  61. I agree Essex.I(Anonymous 5:02 pm)am also a fan since 84,I was 7 then.Transformers 4ever.

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  62. ESSEX---Your idea was................GREAT

    OKAY--HERE WE GO---IT'S A LONG ONE--BUT ENJOYABLE!!

    ***THIS IS ONLY ABOUT JETFIRE'S CONNECTION

    ACT 1: EGYPT {flashback}

    It is safe to say Jetfire & the Fallen are 2 different characters but share a connection---that will be shown as: The Fallen has the Egyptians build his weapon and Jetifre will witness these events---after he finds out there is a deceitful act taking place Jetfire along with uprising Egyptians take care of the Fallen...for NOW


    ACT 2: Smithsonian & Plane Boneyard

    Wheelie is interrogated by Sam & Mikaela about the Decepticon plan and they use him to awaken Jetfire. Wheelie has the ability to cross-factions so he is the link into turning Jetifre into an Autobot. Jetfire explains what must be done to this weapon before it falls into the wrong hands. He is now alligned with the Autobots. They arrange 'transport' from a friendly Autobot who like Jetfire tried to remain hidden but is now awakened by war. Autbots ROLL OUT!!!


    Final Act: DO OR DIE!!

    Having been transported to Egypt by the generous Autobot 'transport' plane the weapon must now be destroyed. In the midst of this final act we see Devastator's protoforms landing in Egypt {remember--there were 6 in the teaser}. Only Devastator has the power & tools to rip open the top of the Pyramid revealing the weapon. The fallen is awakened by Megs and the war begins. Devastator guards the weapon as the BIG 4 {OP, Jetfire, Megs & the Fallen} battle it out. Jetfire and Prime will be hanging by a thread when [PROPS TO ESSEX RIGHT HERE] Jetfire sacrifices himself for the greater good. Now 'Jetfirus Prime' is born and Megs will be destroyed [for good this time] but the fallen will not be defeated in this film. BTW Devastator will suffer at the hands of......Agt Simmons {Sector 7 had more secrets up their sleeves than we knew about}

    EPILOGUE: A signal is sent to the far reaches of space [CREDITS ROLL] and then we see a shadow of a LARGE figure {w/ curved horns} and hear the phrase "Message received----it will take some time to reach the coordinates Soundwave"

    A FILM by MICHAEL BAY

    "W.P."
    --Pennsylvania

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  63. BOY O BOY....YOU AND SCORPIO CAN SHAKE HANDS WITH THESE PRETTY GOOD WRAPUPS.GOOD STUFF

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  65. I definitely like Essex's theory best...

    and so long as Welker voices Soundwave I'll be a happy fangirl :D

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  66. Counterpunch3/23/2009 10:49 PM

    I agree with you Kup.

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  67. @Anon w/ the really good/long explanation.


    Great idea, it almost seems like you have connections...



    Anyway, that storyline would be EPIC.

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  68. Alright man, good story but...

    China and France?

    "Jetfirus Prime" = fucking win

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  69. -Scorp!- Counterpunch
    It`s only one small post!
    I hope Jetfire/Prime combo is better than just having jetfire as his backpack with jets like the toy versions show.

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  70. Counterpunch3/24/2009 12:02 PM

    No Scorp. no unicron no jetfire combo etc etc.

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  71. haha, count another agreement with Kup.
    where is snortpocket? i'm sure he'd have a few more words to add.

    not sure how W.P. could pass up adding CREDITS ROLL OUT though.

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  72. -No Scorp. no unicron no jetfire combo etc etc.-

    Why be so rude. Bay and Orci want Unicron for the third film. The Jetfire/Prime combo is confirmed and i am definitely not stopping my posts. Besides the only reason i have to make long comments is to reply to you!

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  73. You know what???

    I have to say that Scorpio is one of the LEAST annoying regulars.

    Earlier on he was ridiculed for long posts and now he writes a couple of sentences and he is being censored by counterpunch.

    I was confused by this because counterpunch freaked on another guy saying that the blog allowed a freedom of expression yet he contradicts that by trying to hurt Scorpio.

    I'm a Scorpio fan---at least the guy tries!!

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  74. Is Snortpocket out of town or something?? Havent seen him on here in a bit!!!

    Scorpio....i wonder what its like inside of that head of yours sometimes!!! LOL

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  75. OFF TOPIC

    I'm sure it'll be interesting to see what kind of and how many "changes" were made for whatever reasons(leaks,TFLive,not enough time,etc,etc)

    Hopefully ROTF comes out on DVD with LOTS of extras!! Wouldnt you think? Since we're supposed to have lots more of ass kicking (CGI fights) in this one....should be lots more "stuff" they had that they couldnt put in the movie.

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  76. Counterpunch3/24/2009 2:28 PM

    Scorpio said...
    -No Scorp. no unicron no jetfire combo etc etc.-

    Why be so rude. Bay and Orci want Unicron for the third film. The Jetfire/Prime combo is confirmed and i am definitely not stopping my posts. Besides the only reason i have to make long comments is to reply to you!

    -------------------------------------------------------------

    not being rude. just telling you. stop with the " assumptions". Even I have given up on "hoping" Superion being in TF 2....1 or 2 possible " plots" is alrite but you keep writing about the whole TF 2 storyline. Spoilers is fun but if you go too far you might as well just tell us for the next 2 hours and 30 min how TF Revenge Of The Fallen is all about.

    Dont even start about Unicron & TF 3. That's in 2012. We're not even done with TF 2, Scorp. Capeche?

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  77. capeche? lol you guys are non-stop but I love it. at least it's debate and conversation about RotF.

    scorpio, if you're interested in unicron you're not the only one. we would all like to see him in the film one way or another. we can only hope.

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  78. Replying to Counterpunch...
    Sorry but seeing as there isn't much transformers 2 news i thought i might share an opinion or two about the film. I have also given up on the Superion in TF2 idea however seeing as we didn't know about most of the characters until now i am open to facts.
    Replying to Anonymous at 1:29PM:
    Thanks for the support :)
    Replying to Mcat:
    True our debates are a bit fun i dont mind them however it will get annoying for the blog owner. So we have to calm it down.

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  79. I gotta step in here---Scorpio, feel free to post whatever you want dude {some of your stuff is valid}

    I'd rather read your ideas than watching another make fun of someone and asking your friends what they think of your comment like some people do.

    Here's a sample "Insert witty {actually they never are} remark here" Whoa what do ya think everyone? I tried to be wiity!! SAD!!

    ---a 'Scorpio' fan

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  80. Replying to Anonymous at 4:51PM:

    Thanks :)
    Cool thats another fan. . . Or are you the same person i cant tell. Well never mind.

    -We actually had a giant battle in the Grand Canyon in the very first draft of the first movie.-

    I guess this part we can tell is true as i told everyone about this plot a while ago it was going to have Megatron have a huge aerial fight which climaxed with Starscream`s loosing at the Grand Canyon. Then he got decapitated when he was brought back to the rest of the decepticons. Good plot :)

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  81. Here was the original plot surprisingly i found it on this blog as the original was removed.

    http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2007/10/transfomers-2-leaked-script.html

    Sorry for the double posts and spelling mistakes in last post!

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  82. Counterpunch3/24/2009 6:42 PM

    Scorpio... answer this question...

    which side would you rather be on?

    Autobots or

    Decepticons?

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  83. Haha I'm guessing Scorpio is the decepticon vs counterpunch the autobot!

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  84. Counterpunch3/24/2009 7:43 PM

    hush... ;)

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  85. Megs to Soundwave:

    "DESTROY COUNTERPUNCH"

    Soudwave:

    "As you command-----'Ravage'-----EJECT!!!"

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  86. Counterpunch3/25/2009 2:32 AM

    Wow. LAME.

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  87. The rumor of Nimoy finishing the role of Unicron after Orson's death has been shown to be false.

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  88. -The rumor of Nimoy finishing the role of Unicron after Orson's death has been shown to be false.-

    Humm I`m a Unicron fan but i didn't hear of this rumor! Personally i don't think anyone could do better than Orson in the original film. Hopefully if they do include unicron in some far off future film they will have someone who sounds very similar to Orson. Like a voice actor.

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  89. Replying to Counterpunch at 6:42PM:
    Decepticons have good weapons however they are always defeated. The Autobots are fast yet they always win. I would probably say Autobots and my Autobot version would probably be Wingblade as shown below:

    http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Wingblade

    It`s because he is almost as good at killing decepticons as Ironhide and because he was one of the only flying Autobots in the comics.

    Which would you choose Counterpunch out of Autobot or Decepticon? (Other than Side changers or Namesake)

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  90. Counterpunch3/25/2009 1:54 PM

    Scorpio:- Isnt my nick obvious enough?

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  91. And my posts relating on the Aerialbots & Dinobots?

    Counterpunch

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  92. Replying to Counterpunch:
    Dinobots are definitely not in the film!
    Aerialbots maybe in this film but there is no sign that they are so i`m guessing they wont be in this film. Though i thought i already replied about the Aerialbots on 3/24/2009 at 3:54 PM.

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  93. Here is an idea for the Dinobots in Transformers 3.

    Since they’re not appearing in Transformers 2, and just incase Astrotrain doesn’t appear in Transformers 2 or 3, my idea is that the Dinobots have dinosaur robot modes, and their vehicle modes are train cars.

    Grimlock
    Dino Mode: Tyrannosaurus Rex
    Vehicle Mode: Diesel Locomotive

    Slag
    Dino Mode: Triceratops
    Vehicle Mode: Tank Car

    Sludge
    Dino Mode: Brontosaurus
    Vehicle Mode: Box Car

    Snarl
    Dino Mode: Stegosaurus
    Vehicle Mode: Hopper Car

    Swoop
    Dino Mode: Pterodactyl
    Vehicle Mode: Caboose

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  94. Replying to above:
    The only problem with the dinobots idea is why they would be called dinobots if they transformed into cars. I`ld be okay with that but no i think if they do have dinobots they need the National history museum idea where they scan lifesize replica`s or the hollywood idea.

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  95. Counterpunch3/26/2009 8:18 AM

    No Scorp! It means that my fav Autobots are the Aerialbots & Dinobots...

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  96. -No Scorp! It means that my fav Autobots are the Aerialbots & Dinobots...-
    Sorry i thought you were relating to a previous post you had made as you said:
    -AND MY POSTS RELATING on the Aerialbots & Dinobots?-
    Sorry about my confusion. My favorite Autobots are Blaster and Mirage.

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  97. Reply to Scorpio:

    *Ahem!* Not to be rude or anything, but I said, train cars, not cars! Trains are the ancestors of cars, and Dinosaurs are the ancestors of humans, why not? They're going to do the same thing in Power Rangers around Christmas time (they already did in the Japanese counterpart), so why can't Transformers do it too?

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  98. To the anonymous who said "Dinosaurs are the anscestors of humans":

    I think that you might want to do a bit of research on that one. ;) (Humans and dinosaurs are NOWHERE close to being related)

    I, being a HUGE fan of both visual effects, dinosaurs, Industrial Light & Magic, and of course Transformers, would LOVE to see a highly-realistic, transforming 40 foot Tyrannosaurus Rex in the city streets, but I think that there are just too many logistical reasons going against the Dinobots being in a live-action "Transformers" film. But, I do wish that they could be in the film.

    Maybe someday...

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  99. Counterpunch3/30/2009 4:51 PM

    They have to be in it... clue: Devastator arch enemy besides Omega Supreme is?

    There ya go.

    PS Nothing wrong with having robotic dinosaurs roaming the city or something. Scorpio's fine.. as is Ravage

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  100. Reply to TylerMirage:

    Ah. I see what you're getting at. I guess that I meant to say Dinosaurs were around before humans. That's where I messed up. But still, Dinosaurs turning into trains. What do you think? Oh, and Leonard Nimoy should coice the Fallen. Go Nimoy!

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  101. I meant voice, "coice" was a typo that I was unable to fix.

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  102. Replying to the Anonymous who replied to me.

    I did understand what you meant, I just didn't want someone walking around thinking that humans came from dinosaurs. ;)

    Again, I would absolutely love it if the Dinobots were in the film, but I personally can't see Bay or the writers explaining such a thing. Visually stunning, but logistically...unexplainable. (Although, then how do you explain Scorponok and Ravage, Mr. Orci?)

    If Weaving is voicing Megatron, Welker is voicing Soundwave, then Nimoy should be the perfect part for The Fallen!

    Here's to hoping!

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  103. Uh, TylerMirage, I'm not being rude or anything, but I'm looking for a response on if the Dinobots should turn from dinosaurs (robot mode) to train cars (vehicle mode). Wait, I have an idea. In TF3, or a prequel comic, the dinobots could be shown as creations of the Decepticons that ended up being tamed by the Autobots!

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  104. I'm no script-writer, but that sounds like a ... plausible idea. ;)

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  105. Thank you. :)

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