Friday, April 10, 2009

Defiance #4 Movie Spoilers (Updated)

The concluding issue four of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Prequel Defiance arc came out this Wednesday and it provides a few details and spoilers for the upcoming movie. The arc is the story of what started the Transformers Civil War that eventually reached Earth in the first movie. I have not read the copy so the information is from Seibertron and TFW2005.

In this first three issues, a relic (the sarcophagus Megatron bows before) is found during an archaeology dig on the planet Cybertron. At this time Megatron is leader of the military and Optimus (not yet Prime) is essentially his assistant and director of the dig. Due to the influence of The Fallen, Megatron claims the relic as his own. The Fallen continues to build on Megatron's ambition until he declares martial law and forms the Decepticons and orders the arrest of Optimus and his friends for treason.

So now to the movie related points of interest:
- The Fallen and his "brothers" (13 total perhaps?) were born on the same planet as the AllSpark (its own origins unknown).
- The AllSpark's power was limited but could be restored by harvesting the energy of a sun.
- The first Cybertronians (including Jetfire) were created to find an appropriate star while the Sun Harvester is built on another planet (Earth).
- The Fallen wanted the AllSpark power for himself but his brothers turn the tables and trap The Fallen and themselves in the sarcophagus
- After the brothers are trapped, a pyramid is built around the Sun Harvester.
- The Fallen influences Megatron to form the Decepticons to use the AllSpark to find the Sun Harvester and activate it so he can be released (alluded to in coloring book pages).
- Optimus Prime forms the Autobots to stop Megatron and his followers from freeing The Fallen.
- As part of the war, the AllSpark is sent into space where it lands on earth due to it detecting the Sun Harvester on the planet (and thus the beginning of the first movie).
Update: Small update, changed the cover photo in the top left to much better variant cover for the issue. To bad there wasn't a scene like that in the first movie.

68 comments:

  1. This is a bit late don't we already know this. But what ever thanks for posting.

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  2. I agree but thnx for the info...gotta go get that issue

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  3. hey Kup???

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  4. Hey Kup & Scorp??

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  5. Hey Kup & Scorp??

    You like fishdicks?

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  6. lmao...didnt you and essex agree to work on a plot for this movie and tf3??

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  7. I'm not 100% on knowing the original G1 storyline so I can't compare it to the plot this blog is talking about (as in I can't say which one is better or if the new plot line pays tribute to the G1 days), but I will say that it's a good plot in my opinion.

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  8. what are you??? A gay fish??? hahahahaha

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  9. Any word on when the next trailer is coming out???????

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  10. if ur a spiderman fan check out my blog, Spiderman Symbiotes: updates on spiderman 4 Enjoy ;)

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  11. "lmao...didnt you and essex agree to work on a plot for this movie and tf3??"

    Working on it but essex hasn't been around lately.

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  12. I thought I would clear something up for everyone. I was just told by someone close to production that when all the wheeled-robots are standing the wheels roll up the ankle so that the transformers will actually be standing on feet and not wheels like everyone was bitching about. so no more complaining you whiners!

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  13. this is old news all though its stilll pritty awesome!!!!!!!!

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  14. Of course we think ALIEN ROBOTS are probably going to fall over if they have wheeled feet.

    Stupid flat-footed humans. haha

    I like the back story so far. It's far more epic and intriguing now. Much more of a purpose than just fighting for no reason at all.

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  15. ya i agree with LionBoogy

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  16. the problem with movies is that they need to be short and clear up plot points fairly quickly.

    while a series like the original g1, can be this huge epic sprawling thing.

    bring that up because i because while i don't mind the movie doing its own thing, i miss that sprawling nature of a series. looks here like we will be getting all our answers in 90 minutes or so.

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  17. I am here. Been laying low letting things develop. Thinking alot about The Thirteen. They have to be the most epic besides Uni. Just how? Is what I am trying to figure out. I will be on here heavy saturday. Hope we get a good post.

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  18. The identities of the Thirteen remain shrouded in mystery.
    Confirmed members are:
    1.Prima, the first Matrix-Bearer and first Transformer. 2."The Fallen" (original name unknown), the guardian of the force of entropy in the universe 3.Vector Prime, the guardian of Space and Time 4.An unnamed Prime, the guardian of Rarified Energon, the primal substance of which all Transformer life is composed. This yet unnamed Prime is composed of Skyfall, Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave.

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  19. I like this story it goes a lot deeper than the first one. I'm really loving this transformers mythology.

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  20. -lmao...didnt you and essex agree to work on a plot for this movie and tf3??-

    There is no point me making a plot for this film as it will be useless as the film is released soon. However i will be voicing my opinions on a TF3 Plot while we wait for the release of the third film.

    The sarcofagues (Spelling) they are talking about is really a shard of another allspark which was powered by absorbing the energy of another sun. It acts kind of like a dimensional portal.

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  21. No spacebridges here. I like it better that way. And I agree with Scorp. The second film is done. The third one is where it's at.

    Come check me out here
    http://twitter.com/AuralEssex

    It's all about Vector Prime now. I bet he will be in 3

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  22. Thanks for the supporting voice Essex :)

    -if ur a spiderman fan check out my blog, Spiderman Symbiotes: updates on spiderman 4 Enjoy ;)-

    I checked your blog i am afraid that there wont be many who can comment because you can post Anoynmousely or use a Name/URL post. If you can change this please do so then you will get more comments :)

    As for the brothers i believe the way they are mentioned describes the fallen as a member of a seperate race and he also seems to be a TOT (Techno-Organic Transformer) as the Allspark created him from an organic world.

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  23. thanks alot scorpio :)

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  24. anyone else think that the Allspark was made by the Quintessons? or just me? they might not appear in TF3 but i think they might be mentioned.

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  25. TO THE COMMENT UBOVE ME i think it will b mentioned in flashbacks and/or be talked bout' in TF3

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  26. y IS there no new post' cumin up???? i want something to talk about

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  27. Replying to RY:

    Unfortunately the blog owner cant be there all the time however if you have any new information realting to TF2 or any plot details you have found you might start a small discussion on this topic.

    -anyone else think that the Allspark was made by the Quintessons? or just me? they might not appear in TF3 but i think they might be mentioned.-

    I was thinking more along the lines of Primus,Unicron or the original god who made them. The Quintessons are a tricky life form however i cant envision a plot in which they would need to create life. Unicron on the other hand could use it to create metal or change a planet so he could eat it. Primus could bring life to anything so he might have used the Allspark to change Unicron into a giant metal planet.

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  28. I think the fallen is Emo

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  29. heyy this is a bit off topic but 4 some reason im interested in high tower, besides the toy pix off him has any body seen a pix of him in robot mode?? and is it true that the 3rd TF2 trailer comes out b4 star trek??

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  30. Replying to scorpio-

    True.

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  31. -heyy this is a bit off topic but 4 some reason im interested in high tower, besides the toy pix off him has any body seen a pix of him in robot mode?? and is it true that the 3rd TF2 trailer comes out b4 star trek??-

    As with the rest of the Constructicons Hightower hasnt been revealed in robot mode yet. The third trailer is rumored to be released with Startrek however if it is it will be confirmed on Micheal bay`s blog which is called Michealbay.com or his forums. However if it is not confirmed then most likely the third trailer may not be released until the film is near release date.

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  32. Thanks alot scorpio although demolisher, rampage, long haul, mixmaster has been revealed in robot mode, only high tower n scrapper, and possibley overload (rumor or false??)havent been revealed

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  33. iwasherenotyou4/11/2009 6:50 PM

    so thats why they wanna destroy the sun!

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  34. uh oh! just heard about Beatbox being in the movie. go to transformersforlife.com and see the breaking news!

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  35. uh oh! more spam on this blog

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  36. wow u did that all bye your self?!?! go by ur self a medal '/

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  37. does this mean the allspark is primus?

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  38. -does this mean the allspark is primus?-

    No it means the Allspark is a tool created by someone that came before the Fallen! e.g. The Quintessons, Unicron or indeed Primus

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  39. Spam has been removed and as TFLive said:

    "Please ignore all spam comments and rude language i will get about sorting it"

    Or something like that :)

    Anyway`s not much new information so time to start a rumor. In this link you see a repainted version of Jazz released under the name Smokescreen could this new charecter be in TF2 and if so will he be replacing Jazz?

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-autobot-jazz-smokescreen-repaint-images-167285/

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  40. You guise know that's not the cover for Defiance #4, right?

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  41. you know you don't spell "guys" like that. right?

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  42. heyy abouty lazerbeak being in the movie, if you go on wikipedia and type in , transformers 2 go to cast and go to decepticons, under Ravage theres something that says, "a robot resembling frenzy, with a cat like face,dread locks, and a bird like beak was spotted on set. i pritty sure if u go on google you cam see a picture of it somewhere i konw back in October i saw that picture, it was on the Princten campus set. my guess is its lazerbeak or Alice (pretender),or mabye alice whos disguse was a human named alice but is secretly Lazerbeak. im not really sure

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  43. here's another link with pics of scrapper, mixmaster and the other constructicons. i'm sure we have seen most of them but thought I would post it for those who haven't seen them.

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/radicons-customs/Robots-In-Disguise/dirtgrit-Devastator-vipera/

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  44. mistake. those aren't movie images

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  45. heyy i think it would be kool to introduce LongArm in TF3 or mabye even TF2, mabye TF2 will end like the autobots are defeated and right before the battle began, optimus radioed in 4 back up and possibley the autobot flyers reinforce them along with long arm and other ground auto bots. then jetfire n optimus combine to kick devastators ass

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  46. I Highly doubt that becasue if other Autobots were close enough to get there in time then they would have already been fighting since Megatron AND The Fallen are loose......

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  47. Replying to Jedi Master Starkiller:

    Not all Autobots will arrive in this film some of them are fighting decepticons on Cybertrons others are hiding waiting for the moment to attack.

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  48. MIXMASTER ROBOT MODE!!!

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=448

    Sam Matioli

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  49. no matter what happens...
    I think transformers 2 is going to be EPIC!
    :D

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  50. im 16 and want head, email me on tf2_acne@hotmail.com

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  51. I don't think they should go with the Quintessons as an origin source. The Quintessons never really made sense. They have to make it more mythical.

    The first modern retelling of the origins of Primus and Unicron did not come from G1-oriented media, but from a set of Armada trading cards released by Fleer. It was the backstory printed on Unicron's card which introduced the concept of the two being brothers created to explore the new universe by an extradimensional entity, here named the "Allspark."
    -tfwiki.net
    So If the Allspark made Primus and Uni then who made the Allspark.

    Prima, the first transformer, has to come about. I'm gonna think about this and Post a theory later.

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  52. You bring out some good thoughts Essex as usual.

    Although i do have a feeling that Prima first made the Allspark i believe that the Allspark then made the Fallens race then it made a new god splitting him into two to create Unicron and Primus. To guard this new race of Brothers.

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  53. Hey guys, someone have the link of the scan of ROTF prequel Defiance issue 4, i am to this - to read spoilers that stay in the comic, plese someone help me and the other people who waits for ROTF, thanks

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  54. To Scorpio: Smokescreen is now an official new ROTF toy,together with a new Brawl. So i don't think Smokescreen will be in the movie to replace Jazz,because Brawl won't be there neither,cause he's dead. It's cool though to see Smokescreen in his G1 colors.
    Though I still hope Jazz will be back,as he is still mentioned on IMDB.

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  55. Thanks for the information Anonymous at 4:46PM although dont trust everything on there as it took them 6 months to realise Halo wasnt going to be released on the original date even when the date had passed.

    Hopefully Jazz returns and gets a new Skeletal car alt mode as Jazz needs to be more bad*** in this film!

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  56. Anytime Scorpio,and yes,good point regarding IMDB. But wasn't Darius McGrary(spelling?)spot on the set? Fingers crossed! Secretly hoping for a Porsche 911 with the G1 colors,maybe he becomes a Nissan GT-R,cause there's a Nissan toy out there(another Sideways toy?). But Smokescreen would be very cool too,I do like the Pontiac Solstice.

    MP

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  57. OMFG that art is awesome! GET HIM PRIMMMMEEEE!!!!

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  58. Request Defiance #4 scan pls... (Either via Sendspace, Rapidshare, Megaupload, etc...)

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  59. just read it. Awesome story. Now it makes sense movie wise on how how the Autobots were formed. same as Deceps...

    Cool got to see Cosmos in robot mode...

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  60. http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=snmzf1jk13b

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1KQPND9B

    http://rapidshare.com/files/222212636/Transformers_Revenge_of_the_Fallen_Movie_Prequel_-_Defiance_04__2009___SEGoat-DCP_.cbr

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/dh2ces

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  61. THANKS FOR THOSE SCANS!!! ^_^

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  62. i was saying on another post that devestator climbs up one of the pyramids and maybe the aerial bots are in this film and that optimus can combine with jetfire and do somesort of king kong scene because devestaor is sapposed be like a gorilla remember? if devestator dies in this film theres no point bringing dinobots for third

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  63. This HQ Series( The Defiance)is so cool!!!

    I liked the Transformers cybertron mode!!!

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  64. I just wanted to add something about the Allspark. For most of the comments appear to refer to the new interpretation of it. I believe it was somewhere on the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, Energon and Cybertron), as well as some other DreamWave comics, that the story of the beginning is told.

    It goes something like this: The Allspark is a being older than everything, even the universe itself, when he/she/it saw the universe being born, he wanted to know more about it, so he created Unicron and Primus, brothers, heralds of this Allspark God, so they could gather information about the newly created space and they could bring it back to It. In his travels, Unicron realized there was much energy in the cosmos and that he could eat it all and become almighty, so Primus didn't like this and fought his brother, being able to manipulate matter he got hist brother's essence into a planetoid where he should be sleeping forever.

    Done this, he decided to do just about the same for him and he transformed into a planet himself (Cybertron) and created thirteen robots to protect him, of which the only two confirmed are Vector Prime and The Fallen (others are hinted now and then but they all appear to have lost their memories for some reason or another)

    The Fallen is called this way, because he believed in chaos as a more powerful force so he woke the Chaos Bringer (Unicron). After doing this, some battles later, Unicron was defeated (although you can never truly defeat pure evil, can you?), and in doing this, both Unicron and The Fallen got trapped in an in between dimension out of every reality caused by the destruction of the demigod ... so we thought ... they both have been freed some way or another to continue the struggle between good and evil, chaos and order ...

    So you see, the allspark is more like God, like the Hindu God rather, who created lower gods so they ruled over things while he just sat there and watched

    Aaaaand ... thats my fifty cents

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