Friday, January 14, 2011

Bay Talks Revenge, Moon

In an interview with Hero Complex, Transformers: Dark of the Moon director Michael Bay discusses the disappointment he had with Revenge of the Fallen and how he thinks Dark of the Moon is a much better film, comparing its style "as a sort of homeland version of ”Black Hawk Down.” The full article is here.

“[Revenge of the Fallen] was kind of a mess, wasn’t it?” an unsmiling Bay said of the 2009 film, which was far from a flop — it grossed a potent $836 million worldwide, finishing third for the year behind only “Avatar” and the sixth “Harry Potter” movie. But the director still talks about the blockbuster in tones of regret. “Look, the movie had some good things in it and it was entertaining and it did very well, but it also failed in some key ways. I learned from it. And now with this third movie we’re going back to basics and I absolutely believe this is going to be a much better film than the second one.”

“I’m still having fun and especially with this movie,” Bay said. ”Look, we got burned on the last movie. The big thing was the writers strike, it hurt the film and it made it hard on everybody. We had three weeks to get our story and, really, we were going into the movie without a script. It’s tough to do that. It was too big of a movie. There were too many endings or too many things that felt like endings. There was so much animation [in the visual effects postproduction work], too, and we ran out of time. We used the schedule of the first movie for the second movie but on the second one way more labor was needed for the animation. And then it felt like we were writing the script in the edit room, trying to put together a story.”

“I think we have something to prove with this third one,” Bay said of the movie that brings back star Shia LaBeouf in the role of Sam Witwicky, the young everyman who befriends an Autobot called Bumblebee. ”We’re back to basics. The second one was something going on inside of Sam, the way he’s affected and feeling, and that’s a hard thing to do. It’s more mystical, in a way. This one, there’s nothing mystical about it. It’s a good old-fashioned mystery and it’s a tougher movie … it’s funny but it’s not a wisecrack-funny; it’s funnier in the situation.”

Spielberg [says]: “As the plot thickens in the third installment of ‘Transformers,’ Michael’s work on it feels fresh and energized … with lots of new and inventive ways of turning a page on this franchise.“

Instead of giant military operations and armada imagery, this third ”Transformers” film is “lean and mean,” Bay says, and the script by Ehren Kruger (“The Ring“) presents more of a small-team, commando tension. Bay says he thinks of this film as a sort of homeland version of ”Black Hawk Down” — but, you know, with giant alien robots. Instead of Middle East deserts, the majority of the action will be set amid the smoldering boulevards of Chicago where humanity continues to fight against the hulking mecha-warriors from outer space, exploiting their one known weakness (their eyes).

“I don’t want to talk about it, but we obviously replaced our girl, and by everything I see we fared well,” Bay said, nodding over his shoulder toward Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. “Look, I will say that I think we have a better cast with this third movie than we’ve ever had.”

...Bay didn’t mince words about his motivation. “I’m trying,” he said, “to make up for movie two.”

83 comments:

  1. Good to hear that he is trying to make it better than ROTF. I enjoyed the first, so Im hoping he can pull it off. *crosses fingers*

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  2. I really dont understand where Bay, Shia and alot of people are coming from about ROTF. I thought it was a very entertaining movie. I saw it several times in the theater and own it now. No regrets at all. I will watch the movie every couple of months. I have no problems with the movie. It is an escape with some great adaptations of characters I grew up with. Yeah there are some sleazy sexual reference jokes, but it adds reality. At least the characters arent saying phrases that you'd find in Leave it to Beaver or something (no golly gee comments). I thought Megan Fox and Shia's performances were genuine. I dont get the disappointment.

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  3. Of course there will be a better cast, I was an extra! :)

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  4. ROTF wasn't...THAT bad. Bays putting it down like it was an abomination. It was good. Not as good as the first but still good. He's aiming high though! :)

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  5. I liked the second one, in some ways better than the first. No, it wasn't perfect. And in some ways it was worse than the first. But overall I still liked it.

    I'm looking forward to this third one.

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  6. bull shit he knows the film will fail he knows it was a BIG mistake firering megan fox an repleaceing her with that rosie topmodel

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  7. Bay was right on the head by saying that it had some good things and was entertaining but failed in key ways. That nails how I felt about it. The action was far superior to the first film but the story flow was terrible. I am f'ing psyched for DOTM now though especially after hearing the praise of the media that saw the footage.

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  8. i posted earlier and the comment was on the board, but was removed. dont know why.

    I really dont understand where Bay and Shia are coming from. I had no problems with the second movie. I thought the acting was genuine, the Special effects were awesome, action was great. I have no problems with the story line.

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  9. At least Michael Bay knows and realized that ROTF was a complete and absolute clusterfuck. DOTM is your only chance to redeem yourself for ROTF, Michael Bay.

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  10. He s just saying that for publicity reasons, it would be a harder sell if he went for a "more of the same" in interviews.
    Transformers is meant to be incoherent and chaotic, that s a big part of what makes it great (like the opening of the 80s cartoons)
    LOVED the first and second films, this will be probably be more of the same, and it will be great.

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  11. Im 100% that this movie is going to be the best of all 3. And lets not bring MEGAN FOX ON THE BOARD.

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  12. Revenge of The Fallen started out great and could have ended perfectly, if not for the incidents during production.
    My opinion on ROTF is that if there was a bit more focus on Devastator,i t's individual robot characters, the desert battle between the military and the cons and the last battle between Jet-Prime/Megs and The Fallen, It could have been so great.

    There was so much potential that could have been re-done in the movie that It makes me wish Paramount could have given Bay/Co. more time to finish. But business is business, : (

    It would have been nice to have more emphasis on the constructicons as well as making the Fallen feel more of a threat.
    Transformers 3 should be what we wanted from TF2, I'll give my trust to Bay and Kruger despite of what happened last time.

    I'm going to miss Megan Fox though.
    (Now if only we could find out if Barricade will join the team.. . )

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  13. uhhhh.......
    What is up whith baricade? whats whith all the questions about him returning?
    HE DIED
    in TF1, albite it was offscreen for the movie all other forms of publication for the film revealed him to die!

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  14. "bull shit he knows the film will fail he knows it was a BIG mistake firering megan fox an repleaceing her with that rosie topmodel"

    So you're saying, that people were comming to see those movies... for Megan? Yay for transformers.

    "in TF1, albite it was offscreen for the movie all other forms of publication for the film revealed him to die!"

    Yes, in official comic adaptation he was killed. And then in official comic sequel he was ressurected and has a few stories.

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  15. I would say Megan Fox DID bring more people into the theatres (Especially ppl who aren't into transformers)

    With that said, i think the site admin should do a poll of whether ROTF was: very bad, kinda bad, aright, good, or very good to truly see where the movie was at because me personally, i really enjoyed a lot of parts in ROTF so i dont know why exactly bay is putting it down so much.

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  16. "I would say Megan Fox DID bring more people into the theatres (Especially ppl who aren't into transformers)"

    So what's the point of makin transformers movie?

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  17. If Megan Fox brings more people into the theatres where were these people when Jonah Hex and Jennifers Body came out? Some People give her to much credit. "Everybody" hated on her when she was on Transformers and now she is important for transformers to succeed? LOL Hypocrites

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  18. Revenge of the fallen is a horrible film,
    the action scenes were not good, none of them made any sence, they lacked any tension, and the only one that was good was forest battle, which still didnt make any sence

    there are plot holes ever single minute of watching, i dont even mind 5 blatent plot holes when watching a film, but you could probably find 200 in revenge of the fallen and dialogue was terrible

    If you think it was good you are retarded, there is no two ways about it, I dont care if you liked it, but actually saying that the scenes were well made is a blatent lie, and michael bay is telling the truth

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  19. IDK about anyone else, but I went to see Transformers to see Prime slap around Decepticons like they owe him money. It would have been nice to have Megan in all three films, but i'm not going to knock Rosie until I see her on screen.

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  20. I want to say 3 things:
    1: I like ROTF a lot
    2: Megan Fox is as important as Liv Tyler in Armageddon, as important as Kate Beckinsale in Pearl Harbor and as important as Scarlett in The island, maybe more because she has been in TWO movies.
    3: I saw Rosie "acting" IN FRONT OF ME in Chicago and Damn it! she SUCKS!!!! I mean a lotttttt

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  21. "Liv Tyler in Armageddon"

    Liv Tyler character in armageddon is absolutly useless. As is Megan Fox in Transformers.

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  22. "bull shit he knows the film will fail he knows it was a BIG mistake firering megan fox an repleaceing her with that rosie topmodel"

    You're a moron, aredo.

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  23. How can people say the action scenes in ROTF sucked? Its like saying Megan wasnt hot. Makes me wonder if those that didnt like the action even like action to begin with, or for that matter, even like women.

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  24. Are we going to see a full trailer around super bowl time? teaser was great, but I want some more footage.

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  25. All i hope for is that he doesnt end it at 3, Transformers is a HUGE universe my riends, and you cant get into all of it in 3 movies.....well thats what i think anyway.

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  26. @Anonymous 1/15/2011 9:05 AM: Transformers2 actions scenes and CGI were perfect. Complaining about that it's just dumb. You people don't make any sense. Transformers3 is going to make no sense since Bay fired Megan Fox and ruined Sam Witwicky character in the process. He declared that he is going to get rid of Mikaela Banes character by telling that she dumped Sam ... THAT is going to make no sense at all. It's enough to ruin the trilogy alone.

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  27. @Anonymous 1/15/2011 11:09 AM: are you in love with the aredo guy perhaps? You are really obsessed with him whoever he is. Are you gay? That would explain why you don't like Megan Fox.

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  28. @Anonymous 1/15/2011 9:29 AM: Unfortunately Michael Bay screwed it up completely when he selected Rosie topmodel. He should have avoided having any new girlfriend for Sam Witwicky and that's it. He should have focused on Sam relationship with his family and Autobots and focus on military and the movie would have worked perfectly despite the lack of Mikaela Banes. BUT the Rosie topmodel is what is going to bring down the whole movie, ruining the trilogy and make Sam Witwicky and unlikeable character. It's just like if Bay ruined his own main couple in Armageddon, The Island or Pearl Harbor (although on that it was a triangle already, and he could have gone with the triangle option in Transformers2 but he didn't). Bay should have fired Megan Fox before filming Transformers2 if he really wanted to. Now he ruined everything. The only option left to him to fix his own mess would be to show Mikaela Banes funeral and give people a reason to still like Sam Witwicky BUT instead he is following some very bad advice and going with the "funny" (so he thinks) thing of Mikaela dumping Sam, which makes no sense after the first two movies and who loved the movies and characters is going to deeply dislike all of that. The Rosie topmodel isn't even hot to play eye candy, he could have chosen a very hot topmodel if he wanted to. Michael Bay definetely lost his touch.

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  29. @"You are really obsessed with him whoever he is. Are you gay? That would explain why you don't like Megan Fox."

    I love how peoplea act like it's a rule that you have to like Megan Fox, and if you don't, then you're gay. LOL. Ignorant.

    I guess if you like trashy women who can't act, then I would agree. But me, I prefer women with class, and not someone who's a man-hating hypocrite that can't act.

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  30. 1/15/2011 12:30 pm look my god, im really, reaally startin to get annoyed by all your constant bullshit that the film will fail, why cant you just leave goddamnment an just let us TF fans enjoy the film, dude your really starting to scare me cause everytime u post somthin its all bout megan fox dude get a life or at least therapy

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  31. "He declared that he is going to get rid of Mikaela Banes character by telling that she dumped Sam ... THAT is going to make no sense at all."

    A girl dumping a guy?! That never happened before in the mankind history! Nonsense, nonsense i say! D:

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  32. Many action scenes in ROTF was good. Ravage tearing into the NEST base was kick ass. But, the police chase and then the quick hiding bit was a WTH to me. I understand the scripting in editing that was done. At least the novel filled out those parts better in my mind.

    I hope there is a better game plan this time around.

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  33. uuuhhh, you guys do know Megan Fox started as a model right? Rosie couldn't be any worse than Megan Fox was... Their brain size is most likely similar, so hopefully Rosie will have more lines than just, "SAM!" and slow the character down. Face it, Megan Fox was dead weight. And remember, this is, "TRANSFORMERS", not, "WHORISH SLUTS WITH A WAR IN THE BACKGROUND THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE SOME GIANT ROBOTS"

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  34. Even if Rosie isn't that hot, I wouldn't care. It would give a nice break from seeing cleavage for two hours and action in the background, and actually see some action

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  35. anonymous at 240 = no frankie and mojo action please

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  36. @ Anon 7:41:
    Yeah, no kidding. Another benifit of Megan Fox being gone is Wheelie will have nobody to dry hump anymore

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    Anyways, Who gives a toot bout megan fox? Damn skank aint that good lookin

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  38. I caan't waait...

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  39. The only pair of tits i accepte in Transformers movie are Arcee tits. Megan Fox go hoam.

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  40. 1. I've said this once before, Sam and Mikaela breaking up DOES make sense. They are high school sweethearts. DOTM takes place a few years later after Sam is out of college. People change and grow apart going into adulthood. Mikaela probably never went to college and still worked for her dad. Sam is pursuing a career. They most likely grew apart and I don't see how that wouldn't make sense. Happens all the time. Not everyone marries their high school sweetheart.

    2. This movie will be good for one simple reason. Hack writers Orci and Kurtzman are not involved.

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  41. I realize that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but I still chuckle when someone dogs Rosie Huntington-Whitely's looks. She is, afterall a Victoria's Secret Angel...they don't just hire any old nag for that gig.

    @Anonymous 1/15/2011 12:30pm...My friend I think maybe you are obsessed with the Mikayla character and I believe that no matter how her absence is explained you will still view this movie as a failure. And unless you've read something the rest of us haven't how do you know how her absence will really be explained? I hope you're not reading to much from Shia's comments to ET? Why not sit back, enjoy the build-up to the film's release and then judge how good or bad the movie is?

    "the majority of the action will be set amid the smoldering boulevards of Chicago where humanity continues to fight against the hulking mecha-warriors from outer space, exploiting their one known weakness (their eyes)"...Given Bay's frequent references to Black Hawk Down I'm wondering if the Chicago battle sequence might actually take up a large chunk of the films running time as opposed to just the final 20 minutes or so? Also, what does the article mean about "exploiting their one known weakness(Their eyes)?

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  42. I'm so blind!!! I just noticed that on the picture that accompanies this article Rosie seems to be climbing into an open hatch on the ship/robot/whatever. Maybe I'm not the only blind person on here as I don't think anyone else mentioned it previously

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  43. @Chad: Sam and Mikaela breaking up DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. It's just awful sloppy bad writing and bad business at work in Hollywood. It's Michael Bay that screwed up his own first trilogy. It's just as simple as that.

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  44. "Sam and Mikaela breaking up DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE."

    It does make sense. It happenes in the real world, to real people, so why can't it happen to them? Because they are to woody actors, ergo not real people?

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  45. 1/16/2011 4:30 my god i cant take it im gettin off this blog an going fine a better one, one that doesnt have an obsessed megan fox fanatic

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  46. OK DOES ANYONE THING THAT SHIP THAT SHIA N ROSA ARE ON IS POSSIBLE SPRINGER? N THAT MAYBE THAT GREEN WRECKER CAR IS HIM ALSO I MEAN JUST A POSSIBILITY

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  47. @Anonymous 1/16/2011 4:33 PM: 1) it doesn't happen to everyone; 2) it's going to be very bad writing negating the first two movies and all the effort that Bay and Spielberg put in creating the couple. What is the point for this mess? The Rosie topmodel should have played anyone else but not a new Sam girlfriend. It's a bad move. It's the best way to ruin mood and spirit of main characters. Also Sam is a nerd and not James Bond.

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  48. @Anonymous 1/16/2011 4:35 PM: are you gay or what? Others already confirmed that the Rosie topmodel just can't act and she is going to be atrocious to watch. If you and others disliked Megan Fox so much you are going to regret that and you will miss her after having watched Rosie Huntington-Whiteley and you will realize what a mess Michael Bay did.

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  49. 1/16/2011 5:55 OH MY FUCKING GOD NO ONE CARES

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  50. mynameisyours1/16/2011 7:14 PM

    honestly dude the film does NOT REVOLVE AROUND MEGAN FOX sorry but damn u keep on comin back an back sayin the film will fail but it wont! god how long will u keep this up

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  51. Some people need to see the difference between actress & character.

    Now who plays a role is of less importance. If Megan Fox & Michael Bay can't get a long it is better if somoene leaves. Now get in a new actress.

    But ditching a character in the third movie of a trilogy because of that is a bad decision.

    Dropping Mikaela Banes from the trilogy is like Leia not being in Return of the Jedi and Arwen in Return of the King.

    From that pov the movie already starts with negative points.

    Furthermore: the powerglove idea is stupid and gives more negative points.

    The plot on the moon is also stupid as it creates a plot hole with movie one (the best thing for Transformers ever since the 80 comics!).

    Thus, for me, I already go to the movie with very low expectations. The story won't be good. Thrust me.

    The action will be cool. As long as it has bigger focus on Transformers.

    RotF : the end battle was more humans vs robots. Pity.

    RotF was decent, but had major story errors. The biggest being the lead up to the forest battle, the big gun on the ship and the Jetfire/Prime combo.

    ceeya

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  52. NERDS...SHUT THE F UP...you're all gonna watch it so SHUT THE F UP AND QUIT YOUR BITCHIN

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  53. @Anonymous 1/17/2011 12:43 AM: the problem for Spielberg, Michael Bay and Paramount is just how many nerds will pay the ticket this time to watch the movie... And they will be a lot less than before because this Transformers3 movie is going to be a sloppy work, bad joke ruining the trilogy forever.

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  54. Haha!

    FINALLY everybody who said Revenge was a good movie or even better than the first one was proven wrong!!!!

    Thanx Bay for being honest and admitting that Revenge sucked!!

    Looking forward to DOTM!!!!

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  55. "it's going to be very bad writing negating the first two movies and all the effort that Bay and Spielberg put in creating the couple. What is the point for this mess? The Rosie topmodel should have played anyone else but not a new Sam girlfriend. It's a bad move. It's the best way to ruin mood and spirit of main characters. Also Sam is a nerd and not James Bond."

    Again, it happenes in real life. Everything goes right, you are happy... and bam. There she goes. And srsly, you're telling me, that people are going to see this movies... for Megan Fox, or her romance betwen Mikaela and Sam? Srsly? That's what imporntant?

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  56. I asking myself what movies you guys seen? I´m so sorry but for me Mikaela's character was important, as important as Arwen in LOTR as important as Hermione in Harry Potter, as important as Elizabeth in Pirates of the caribbean, you guys will see how Pirates 4 and Transformers 3 will fail. I have some friends that dont know Megan Fox isn't in this movie because if I tell them, Michael bay's life would be in danger.
    PS:at least in Pirates 3 Elizabeth's story was finished well, Mikaela's character finish with a kiss over a bike.

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  57. LMAO nobody is going to see this movie for Megan Fox especially us minorities she is cute but please the money this movie will make will come from way more than some Caucasian nerds...she is nothing to the African American and Hispanic community which is where the bulk of the money will come from..evidently you guys didn't think about that...

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  58. "I have some friends that dont know Megan Fox isn't in this movie because if I tell them, Michael bay's life would be in danger."

    Oh no, a bunch of nerds is going to kill MB, because Megan Fox boobs are not in the movie, and they are to young to buy a magazine with her naked pictures!

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  59. @anonymous 7:59 AM
    Oh my God we are in the same case.My guys friends and my boyfriend don't know Megan Fox isn't in this movie, when the trailer cames out and they'll see Rosie instead of Megan they are gonna freak out a lot. They are gonna kill Michael Bay too. ha ha ha ha ha.

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  60. anonymous 9:00 AM There are not naked pictures of Megan Fox, as opposed to Rosie. There are a lot of pictures with Rosie showing her breast and her butt, so who is the slut???

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  61. "Oh my God we are in the same case.My guys friends and my boyfriend don't know Megan Fox isn't in this movie, when the trailer cames out and they'll see Rosie instead of Megan they are gonna freak out a lot. They are gonna kill Michael Bay too. ha ha ha ha ha."

    Wow. Cna't believe, there are such a bunch of looser in the world. It's just a movie, and yet you treat it like a big part of your life? Sheesh...

    "There are not naked pictures of Megan Fox, as opposed to Rosie. There are a lot of pictures with Rosie showing her breast and her butt, so who is the slut???"

    Maybe it's a proof, that people want to see Rosie more than Megan...?

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  62. 9:55 AM Seriously? people want to see Rosie more than Megan?
    Let me tell you something: if you go for example to youtube you will see a comercial with the girls of Victoria's secret (including Rosie) directed by Michael Bay and it has 1427277 visitors and if you go Megan Fox the tip it has 3396940, I mean there are more chance that peolpe see victorias's secret comercials because there are more girls and if you don't like some girl you will like other one but no. And I don't want to mention how the Megan Fox transformers 2 clip has 12258455. the clip with Rosie in it that have more visitors have 390641
    Just think about it.

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  63. oh my god u are fucking obsessed with her! shes not god! dude damn the franchis will not fucking fail! goddamn thats it im gunna stop following this blog cus the owners doing a BAD JOB AT KEEPING THIS CRAZY OBSESSED FUCKER OUT

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  64. lol me too! im going to start my own blog!! where real TF fans can enjoy! waka waka

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  65. @soadfan: there are at least 4 different people telling you and other little kids insulting people why Mikaela Banes is a key character to the franchise, that the Rosie topmodel is atrocious to watch and can't act at all.
    Like others told one can only wonder which movies you watched, surely not the first two Transformers movies. Anyone telling that human characters are not key to the franchise and Sam and Mikaela as a couple is not important either never watched the movies or is a very little kid (which aren't the majority of viewers for the movies anyway, 15-40 are) OR is a Bay/Spielberg/Paramount employee trying to do some counter damage..the fact is that it won't work as the damage has been done already and Michael Bay did the best to kill the franchise and ruin the movie this time.

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  66. Moderator please help us...

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  67. @Ray: what are you a kid crying in a kindergarten or what? So because there are people that don't agree with you and are angry at Michael Bay for what he did with main characters he himself created in the first place.. you want the website owner to censor those not allowing them to complain and discuss and point out the situation?

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  68. @ TFLAMB:
    Please put another block on Megan Fox comments again. It's ruining the blog with all their comments

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  69. @Anonymous 1/17/2011 5:30 PM: freedom of speech is not for you, indeed. Go to you taliban friends controlled countries or to communist China.

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  70. listion to me punkass your the freak making coments about yourself an agreaing to your own coments get the fuck off this blog--- TFLAMB: look dude ive been tolerating this punk for long enough sorry but god hes getting on my nerves block him just please block this crazy obsessed freak--now back to you-- look dude u keep on comin to this blog an sayin the same shit over agian whats your goddamn goal!? dude get a life get a girlfriend lol damn

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  71. @ Anon. 1/17/2011 7:06
    You are obviously don't know what freedom of speech is, do you? He/she can say whatever they want, so you have no right to say something like that, asshole.

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  72. Why do people keep coming on this blog just to slam others? What's with you people?

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  73. As much as I would like to kill the silly "TF3 fails without Megan!" nonsense, it is on topic for this particular post. If it spreads to other, non-relevant, posts then will happily delete them.

    My best advice is the usual for the internet - don't feed the trolls. Just ignore that they wrote anything at all and continue the conversation as if they don't exist.

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  74. Finally some sense around here (in the comments). Thank you TFLAMB

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  75. It's pretty obvious that there are Paramount and Michael Bay employees on forums here and everywhere really scared about what people will think of the mess Bay did when he fired Megan Fox. He ruined the movie himself.
    Transformers2 had some flaws but was still very good, critics are paid by competitors to bash movies, they did the same against the first movie no more no less, critics are bad people whoever listens to them doesn't deserve to live and loves to be enslaved.
    It's not that Bay and Paramount employees will turn Rosie into a good actress by whining against people that complain. And the whole "she is playing Carly" thing it's just dumber. Michael Bay if was smart enough would have focused on Sam relationship with his parents and on military. Period. He did a terrible mistake and he is going to pay the consequences.

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  76. "It's pretty obvious that there are Paramount and Michael Bay employees on forums here and everywhere really scared about what people will think of the mess Bay did when he fired Megan Fox. He ruined the movie himself."

    Ahahahahahahahaha.

    "Transformers2 had some flaws but was still very good, critics are paid by competitors to bash movies, they did the same against the first movie no more no less, critics are bad people whoever listens to them doesn't deserve to live and loves to be enslaved."

    Ahahahhahahahhahahhahahah!!

    "Michael Bay if was smart enough would have focused on Sam relationship with his parents"

    AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA! OMG, are you serious? xD

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  77. I just wanna say something can I come here about 15 August after transformers 3 fail and say ha ha ha ha ha ha

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  78. "I just wanna say something can I come here about 15 August after transformers 3 fail and say ha ha ha ha ha ha"

    And then you will think "so that's how not being a virgin feels like".

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  79. I’m all for a spirited, educated debate…unfortunately that’s not what we’re having. This debate has been largely based on assumptions. It has been 8 months of the same comments being cut & pasted to any posted topic. Anyone who doesn’t think the character change will affect the film is accused of working for Paramount or Bay and critics who saw the same flaws in ROTF as most Transformer fans saw are said to be paid off by rival studios.
    Bay says he chose not to bring Fox back, she says it was her decision not to return. Let’s look at what we know:
    • Fox was criticizing ROTF the very week it was released.
    • While promoting Jennifer’s Body Fox was critical of Bay; comparing him to Hitler, calling him “such a dick” and “completely lacking in social skills”.
    • When Fox left the Transformers 3 production the Hollywood Reporter, Deadline Hollywood and Entertainment Weekly all reported that Fox walked out of a production meeting after having been chastised by Bay for not being prepared (Being pale and thin) and was alleged to have said “I don’t care about your F***ing movie”.
    When I think about Fox’s departure, I believe she simply didn’t want to be a part of this franchise anymore. She has no reason to lie; quitting a major production just before it begins would damage her reputation in Hollywood. Bay does have a reason to lie; his ego would be damaged if his creation walked away from the role that made her famous and his reputation would be damaged if Fox quit her only significant role due to his on-set behavior.
    So if you know all that and still blame Bay…maybe you know something the rest of us don’t. If so, please share your information.

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  80. @Winton Ray: she has no reason to lie? Bay doesn't lie? Yeah.. no one in Hollywood lies..uh?
    In which world do you live? And you trust anything magazines and online magazines wrote about directors,actors/actresses and business studios?
    Do cows fly in your world too? I bet yes...

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  81. dude stop being a dick

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  82. @Anonymous 1/19/2011 4:43 PM: you insulting people is the icing on the cake.

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  83. oh k dude listion with your ears i wasnt being rude i fucking meant to say stop being a dick cause that winton ray guy wanted to have a educated debate an YOU reply with a rude statement back to him instead of giving him the supposed answer he was looking for........fucking sorry

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