Friday, October 31, 2008

Alice Is a Pretender?

TFW TF2 source strikes again, this time saying that Isabel Lucas' Alice is a Pretender.

The TFW TF2 Insider has confirmed that the character of Alice, as played by Isabel Lucas, in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, is a Pretender. For those not familiar with Transformers sub-lines from the 1980s, Pretenders are Transformers that are hidden inside a shell that acts as their disguise. In the case of Alice, the shell will be an attractive human woman while the inner robot is best described as a hybrid of the Frenzy robot design from the first movie. The Pretender Transformer will have an arm that transforms into an energy weapon, a long tongue, and a scanning tentacle.
So what is a "Pretender"? It is a subsection of the Transformers line that was first introduced back in 1988 where a Transformer has a "synthetic organic outer shell" that hid the robot. Back then the shells where just a plastic shell that split in half revealing the TF inside which usually had a pretty crappy alt mode. Click here for the Wikipedia entry.

As for the character of Alice, currently the only confirmed information is she befriends the freshman Sam in college. I want to discount the rumor but really there am a whole lot of story left that we know nothing about so any theory on what part the character plays in the movie and for how long remain valid. The actress has not been spotted on any other sets except those shot in Princeton but that doesn't mean she did not show up for scenes filmed at the various air force bases around the country or overseas.

There is also a video of a scene shot in Princeton that supports this theory as it shows Lucas calmly walking away while extras are panicking around her suggesting something sinister is going on with the character. Could she be the form that "Ravage" hides in before chasing Shia, Megan and Leo on the streets of Princeton?

It is an interesting idea to say the least. While Pretenders were poorly executed back in the '80s it doesn't mean it couldn't work in a movie if handled well and judiciously. Really the only problem I have with the idea is it a little too Terminator like. If there wasn't a Terminator movie in production and a TV show, having a Pretender Transformer preying on our human heroes could almost be a movie unto itself. As it is, I am very skeptical.

30 comments:

  1. just read on wikipedia that humans are autobots and monstrous animals are decepticons. sounds interesting.

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  2. I remember reading somewhere that Ravage was listed as "biological weapon," sounds fitting to me if it is able to take the form of a human-shell.

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  3. Wasn't there a blog on here this summer about a scene where Sam and BB make this crazy skid turn and kick that girl out of BB?
    Something about BB didn't like her and there was something spilt all over her?

    Who knows.

    Sounds like it could be possilbe and believable.

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  4. anything that doesnt come from bay or one of the writers is "rumor", not a "confirmation".... i dont believe anything from anywhere else...unless it is confirmed by the director or one of the writers.

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  5. Even when video backs it up?

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  6. I already had this theory from the first movie. Rachael Taylor had this tattoo on her neck in the movie that resembles one of the scribe on the AllSpark. And guess what? Isabel Lucas and Rachael Taylor happens to look similar. SO I won't be suprised with this Pretender thing.

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  7. I hope it's not true. Praying for it to be fake. Pretender = shit

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  8. Here is the link to the old article from this blog: http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/isabel-lucas-filming-street-scene.html

    "The two briefly speech and she stomps away with some greenish goo on her right shoulder."

    Greenish goo??

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  9. "just read on wikipedia that humans are autobots and monstrous animals are decepticons."

    Could this mean Scorponok is a pretender too?

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  10. The idea is perfect for the movie as long as Devastator has a large part in it. The contrast between small Transformers and giant ones would give an amazing perception of menace, Decepticon's revenge all over the place, no one can escape from them...

    Too Terminator like? Yes and no. If Bay managed to do it correctly, if the scenes are dark and very well made like in the first movie or better then it will work perfectly.

    It's very important for such a thing to work that Bay will deliver Devastator on screen for large battle sequences, the contrast between infiltrated Decepticons among humans like Alice would be and giant ones like the combined Constructicons destroying entire cities on their own it's what will make everything work and let the movie flow correctly.

    I expect Bay to deliver all elements in a massive breathtaking way, with very dark moments and amazing action sequences. I expect Transformers2 to be a mixture of elements and styles from Transformers,Armageddon,The Island, Spielberg's War of the Worlds.
    This second movie could be the best sci-fi action movie ever made or fail miserabily and kill the franchise, I surely hope that the second possibility it's not even an option and that Bay and Spielberg will deliver their best movie ever.

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  11. Oh, yes.. the running time it's key to deliver such and idea. It must not feel rushed. All elements must join together correctly and the general public must be able to follow the scenes even better than on the first movie--which doesn't mean that it must slow down but some sequences should be way longer than on the first movie in order to have everything work in a perfect way.

    I sincerely hope that a 160-180minutes running time has been planned and maybe an extended IMAX and then DVD/Blu-Ray release will appear, maybe with a 15-30minutes added content of massive non-stop dark action sequences.

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  12. selective realism11/01/2008 9:04 AM

    Pretenders suck. If anyone saw the Japanese Transformers show with Pretenders it was stupid.

    This has to be misinformation.

    The only incarnation of Transformers that have risen Pretenders above a joke has been the current IDW comics. See Transformers: Stormbringer and what they did with Thunderwing.

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  13. I quite liked pretenders from those old TF shows... hope they make it work well, and I also hope Isabel looks totally hawt in the movie :)

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  14. op is also a pretender. he is a human actually disguised as an alien robot

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  15. She could be some kind of S7 special agent... that's why she was so calm... Sounds to me like a misinformation, the pretenders story line might be too complicated for a movie.

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  16. TRAILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  17. Rofl you guys got way too high expectations

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  18. Anonymous - Sector 7 was supposed to be disbanded. However, I had a theory that they might have continued working in secret (like they did before) even after it was publicly announced that they were shut down.

    As for the pretender...it may work. I was not expecting that in this movie, but Bay can pull this off right if he tries.

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  19. Well, one's things for sure, they're putting alot of new things in this movie that we don't know of.

    we can only speculate at this point.

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  20. Well, that would explain the dreadlocks :P

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  21. Wso "Alice" is a Pretender then.

    Well, and if she befriends Sam, then the scene, in which Sam acts like a Cybertronian could be a Scene, where she helps him out, by taking his place for not coming to School, so that he doesn't get any trouble.

    Also as far as I know(Masterforce), all Pretenders were on the Autobot-Faction, even tough, the Wiki tells a lot more.

    And about Bumblebee, well his Sensors should recognize Whether it's Sam or her, when she tries to get in, so I guess, that if she really plays a Pretender, She should be an Autobot.

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    Andrew said...
    I remember reading somewhere that Ravage was listed as "biological weapon," sounds fitting to me if it is able to take the form of a human-shell.
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    Well, as far as I got it, he's using Biological Weapons, integrated in his Body, like Acid, nerve-Gas ...

    Wait, Tentative! On your given Link ( http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/isabel-lucas-filming-street-scene.html ), BB was about to enter a Trailer The 10th Pic Shows it, could this actually be a Confirmation on Prime's Trailer?
    If so, then We'll gona see Super-Mode-OptimusPrime

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  22. You're all missing something very important.

    BUMBLEBEE WILL FINALLY GET TO SPEAK!!!!!

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  23. betasword, that's just pure bullshit. There will be no fucking ''pretenders'' in this movie. It will be like it should be, classic autobot vs decepticons G1-style with a few combiners. pretender, headmaster, beast crap etc all that is what happened later in the series and it is pure garbage, and will NOT take any part of the movie.

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  24. Well, Anon, Surely, such a Pretender won't be changing into something huge, like a Jet, but it's still quite possible.

    So just keep yourself open-minded, as I surely will do.

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  25. I can see this working now if you look at the pic of the creature on the windshield you can see its chest plates look a little femenin and it explains the long dread like hair. It could also be a way for Bay to introduce Arcee now there are two female TF's one good one bad

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  26. Alice will be a PREDATOR?! Wow, than she will be one ugly son of a... Wait... Pre-ten-der... Uh, nevermind :)

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  27. Sounds like an excellent idea for the movie...

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  28. There are not enough female decepticons in the Transformers series that I have seen. It would be nice to have interesting and complex female antiheroes on that side to add some variety instead of always settling for the sweet female autobots. Not that Arcee is pathetic- she could be a very strong character depending on how she is written.

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  29. and why do so many ppl think she wont b a pretender.... from wat ive seen it looks extremely likely....

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