Monday, October 20, 2008

More Movie "Leaks"

Siebertron.com's own TF insider provided the site with more information about the movie. Much like with TFW's source, I remain skeptical but the ideas still seem pretty cool (and sometimes a bit farfetched).
- As mentioned before, Soundwave's alternate mode is a satellite. Our source, however, cannot personally confirm the other reported rumor of Soundwave also turning into a pickup truck.
- Our source confirms the recently reported rumour that Optimus Prime will combine with Jetfire.
- Ravage uses biological warfare against the humans.
- Jetfire can create wormholes.
- Scorpinok will return.
- Our source does not know if the three "Arcee" motorbikes seen in the Wal-Mart exclusive video combine to form Arcee or not - but our source does tell us that the Arcee bikes have not been on set for months, leading to speculation that the character may die early on in the film.
To add my two cents in order:
- Soundwave's alt mode remains speculative but this is the second source to say his mode is a satellite. The pickup truck mode has been debunked by Transformers writer Roberto Orci.
- I know combining is a theme right now with the rumors but this combo just strikes me as strange. I am hoping this one is false. Optimus Prime shouldn't need assistance of that order to get the job done. His strength, tactical knowledge and leadership skills should be enough.
- Assuming that Ravage is the same creature we saw from Princeton, the attack seems physical. A biological attack, by its very nature, doesn't require direct confrontation, it is a distance offensive attack that doesn't lend itself to action packed Transformers sequences that Bay (and us) favors. Possible but why bother.
- Transformers and special powers is great for a cartoon series, but when the stated goal was to be realistic as possible (hence no mass shifting, complicated moving parts for Transformations, etc), then giving a Transformer the ability to create wormholes seems to negate that goal. Besides, if he could create wormholes then it would make it real easy to kill (or move) all enemies out of the field of battle, which again is counter to action packed TF sequences. Again possible but why bother. Jetfire is big, he flys, he is strong, just using that to make things go boom and beat up on Decepticons.
- Scorponok's return is pretty much a given to me considering his survival in the first film and the return of desert sequences in the second. It’s almost like this piece of information was added to make the rest seem legitimate.

Long story short, I take most of the information with a grain of salt. As usual time will tell. Feel free to add your view in the comments, please keep it civil and insult free.

36 comments:

  1. Wow, this Article is full of garbage, none of the "LEAKS" make any sense. This is the worst "misinformation" leak I have seen yet. Not one aspect of it is believable, nor does it make sense.
    Wormholes? for what?
    Jetfire and Prime on top of each other? not necessary.
    Ravage needs chemicals to fight? Why? he is Ravage, he can kick ass himself.

    This kind of garbage post is an insult to Transformer fans' intelligence.

    P.S. 1st post...Woot

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  2. Wow, this Article is full of garbage, none of the "LEAKS" make any sense. This is the worst "misinformation" leak I have seen yet. Not one aspect of it is believable, nor does it make sense.
    Wormholes? for what?
    Jetfire and Prime on top of each other? not necessary.
    Ravage needs chemicals to fight? Why? he is Ravage, he can kick ass himself.

    This kind of garbage post is an insult to Transformer fans' intelligence.

    P.S. 1st post...Woot"

    Couldn't agree more!

    Worm holes? He could push all the cons through the hole and never see em' again...

    wish these "insiders" would atleast put some thought into the misinformation

    *Rolls eyes*

    Woot! 2nd post :D

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  3. I'd agree with the misinformation idea. One thing I didn't like, the idea that Arcee dies early on. It could just be that Arcee is CG for most of the movie, except in a few scenes where she's 3 motorbikes.

    3rd post...onya tiger!

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  4. OK guys heres a thought. The fight scene with 3 bikes is in China right? Or am I wrong?

    Ok so if I am right, this to me tells me its kind of in the middle of the movie. Not the begining.

    I live in Long Beach and When I saw the scenes with the Cars and trucks blowing up, it was clear to me that LOTS of Transformers are involved Not just the 6 Autobots we saw.

    1. They filmed Scenes of the Autobots Halling ASS! I mean HAULING ASS, to the area of the fight scene. ( cars blowing up)
    A. Cars Hauling Ass are as included (filmed in the after noon)
    1. Prime
    2. Bumbble
    3. Ironhide
    4. Corvette
    5. Trax
    6. Beat

    B. Autobots LEAVEING the Fight scene.

    1. Prime
    2. Bumbble
    3. Ironhide
    4. Corvette
    5. Trax
    6. Beat
    7. Volt.

    The Volt appeared when the autobots were driving SLOW and away from the area of the fight. ( to me Indicating that the Volt shows up in this fight to help out.

    NOW. Something was going on from the Sky. It appears that they were also filming up. And as if more then 1 thing was in the air.

    Skyfire and Starscream going at it?

    Hate to say it but I dont think the Beat and the Trax and the Volt, Audi and the Saab are in the begining. To me this is more 1/3 into the movie.

    I belive the movie starts out on Cybertron. I think you will see the Decepctions getting forces together and some the autobots trying to get in touch with Prime to let him know what comming. Prob see a few Autobots get thier asses kicked and a few get away to earth.

    I think the next part with Sam at the University is the start of the movie for Earth. With him freaking out and Makila( spelling) telling him to get in touch with Prime.

    Then the Autobots find out about the guys that made it to earth, Go to China and the rest of the movie is up in the air.

    To me just a guess here feel Logical.

    I really think we are going to see a small portion of Cybertron. But not as much as we would want.

    What do you think guys?

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  5. ^^^ To the guy with his idea of the movie...

    That's awesome! I love it!!!

    who knows...maybe Arcee stays in china???

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  6. thats what i was going to say, Who said the factory scene in China is the begining of the movie

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  7. Yeah I agree this is alot of mis-info and most likely the micheal bay campaign of misleading info.

    What I do believe

    No Devestator they have been no construction vechichles on set as seen on leaked photos.

    I do believe the Corvette Bicentinal is Sideswipe but I was hoping for Hot Rod.

    The Frenzy like character on the hood of the car is Ravage that has yet to scan a ALT Mode on Earth.

    Optimus & Jetfire will combine if done will not happen until end of the movie rather they are battling Megatron or The Fallen Character or Faction is yet to be revealed.

    Soundwave's Alt mode not as a Satilite Dish but I think could be the H4 Hummer possible the one that says NEST on the side of it.

    Soundwave could have a Dish on the top of it mounted because he is a communication's officer for the Decipticons.

    Megatron as Cybertronian Sropinok Tank this I believe if he brought back he has yet to scan a ALT Earth Mode but Megatron will not be used until the middle or the end of the movie. Thus Starscream will be in charge of the cons until this happens.

    Possible they could use Scorpinok's spark inorder to revive the fallen leader.

    I am hoping for Ultramagnus in the movie cause someone said they saw a Transfer that could be his alt mode.

    Arcee nothing is known will she be in or not. If she is I think she will be killed off in the huge battle at the front of the movie's opening or a possible chase scene with some cons chasing her. Also I doubt that Arcee will be a Triple Changer Combiner.


    Also I heard talk of using the Temples of Egypt for something maybe having something to do with the Cybertronians symbols on the heads of the Transformers. What this connection is and why it is also in Temple's on Earth is yet to be revealed could be explanation of how the All-Spark was made or A way to bring back Megatron or something that is stronger than the All-Spark itself or the Explanation of the Transformers Origins or the possible warning or the approach of Unicron.

    Nothing is known as of yet and nothing will be known until the release of the trailer and the movie itself coming out in June/July 2009.

    As for all the info some I believe some I dont and some is just nonsense.

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  8. I cant disagree more on your stance with special powers.

    Were talking about giant sentient alien robots!!

    Cmon now.

    Individual powers are what make Transformers unique.

    Blackout's EMP blast was sick and you know it.

    If all they have is pulse blasts, missles, bullets and melee weapons that would boring as hell

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  9. If Prime and Skyfire Combine. ( No I really dont want to see that.) thats doing something that never ever happen.

    I keep pushing that thought out of my mind.

    Please Bay dont do the combine with those 2. Just dont!

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  10. all i kno is that their is one more car that hasnt been seen yet its red and it was in the trailer when we all first spotted the corvette so i have a feeling that the best has yet to come and that i think and hope Hot Rod is in this movie tho i wish he was the audi R8

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  11. People keep saying that they see a red car? I have NOT seen a red car ever! I was there and the picture you guys see is of the RED Rack that holds the cars. That car is bright SILVER! Thats the Corvette. And there were 2 Corvetts at LONG Beach. Yes 2!

    Here is the pic of the Corvette. Follow the link. You can see its just a reflection of the Red Trailor Rack!

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SLUr_acEBpI/AAAAAAAAC9M/en9jQXRJNR8/s1600-h/QueenswayBridge1.jpg



    2 prove there ARE 2 Corvetts Please take a look at this scene.

    NOW. this is what make me think of something.

    Twins? Sideswipe and Sunstreaker?

    2 corvettes. Then we ONLY see 1.

    Makes me think that Sunstreaker or Sideswipe bite it.

    IF thats the names.

    Also you will notice that Ratcht is with the group here!



    http://bp1.blogger.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SH58MY-kLaI/AAAAAAAACqs/4pjctvqvUHg/s1600-h/TFFleet3.jpg

    Well what do you think?

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  12. I was glad to see Bob Orci say Soundwave will not be a pick-up truck. Personally, I like how Soundwave was done in the new Transformers Animated (a dark blue Scion xB with a massive speaker system). I also like the idea someone posted above of him being a military communications vehicle with a mounted satellite dish. Time will tell.

    I do not want to see Optimus combining with Skyfire/Jetfire. I know they've had Optimus combine with others in some recent Transformers incarnations, but it just doesn't seem right. Leave the combining to Devastator.

    I don't like the idea of Skyfire/Jetfire or any transformer being able to make wormholes. Although maybe wormholes is some sort of veiled allusion to space bridges.

    Agree with the TFLive blogger; the return of Scorponok was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

    I would've never guessed that so much speculation about the movie would regard Arcee. I do think she'll be in the movie, but I won't even hazard a guess as to whether she'll be one bike or three.

    To Ranger565, as always, you make some great points. I think a lot of us assumed the China scenes were the beginning of the movie because they were filmed first. I think it can happen either in the beginning or the middle of the movie. If the movie starts with an Optimus voiceover - which Peter Cullen has hinted would be the case again - Prime can say how more Autobots and Decepticons have come to earth, and that the Cybertronian wars have started anew. That could set up an easy transition to an Autobot/Decepticon clash in China.

    You're also right about the red Corvette statements: the red we see in those photos is the rack. But I don't think we'll see two Corvettes in the film. We know from the first film that Bay had at least two versions of each vehicle available in case of an accident. I'm thinking the second 'Vette in the truck was the back-up. But hey, I could be wrong.

    Now, given what we've seen and heard, this is what I'm guessing the lineup will be for the movie.

    Autobots
    *Optimus Prime
    *Ironhide
    *Ratchet
    *Bumblebee
    *Corvette (identified as Sideswipe)
    *Trax (still unidentified, I'm guessing Cliffjumper)
    *Beat (identified as Skids)
    *Arcee
    *Skyfire/Jetfire (SR-71 Blackbird)
    *Volt (still unidentified, I'm hoping it's Prowl or Wheeljack)
    *Saab Aero-X (early rumor connected to Wheeljack, if it is in the movie, I'm hoping it's as Sunstreaker)

    Decepticons
    *Megatron
    *Starscream
    *Barricade
    *Scorponok
    *Soundwave
    *Ravage
    *Laserbeak
    *Audi R8 (one of the rumors has this car as a reformatted Barricade; if it isn't, I think it'll get the name of one of the Stunticons)
    *3-5 Constructicons (while I'm still not completely sold on Devastator, I do think we'll see a few Constructicons. My current guesses are Scrapper, Mixmaster and Long Haul)
    *Thundercracker, Skywarp or both (I just have a feeling Starscream will return to earth with at least one of his fellow seekers).

    Keep up the great work TFLive!

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  13. "People keep saying that they see a red car? I have NOT seen a red car ever! I was there and the picture you guys see is of the RED Rack that holds the cars. That car is bright SILVER! Thats the Corvette. And there were 2 Corvetts at LONG Beach. Yes 2!"

    Dude... Chill out. CHILL OUT. Realy, you take this thing WAAAAAY to seroius. Your life depends on it, or what? People like to speculate, thats all...

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  14. bob orcy here
    i dont want to spoil it, but unicorn will make an appearence at the end of the film. the planet eater driven by the matrix's power wants to consume our planet so he can grow bigger. The autobots plan is the following: ingfecting Earth core with a necrotransforming pseudovirus that tranforms erth into cybertron II, then into primus II, who will fight unicorn. But, prime miscalculated, as all humans will die in the process in an unfortunate side-effect, as earth (now cybertron II) looses gravitational field and everything flies into space.
    Bye fellas,
    Bob

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  15. "unicorn will make an appearence at the end of the film."

    UniCORN you say...? Oh Bob, you are such a crazy guy :D

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  16. OK here's my 23 cents on the rumours spread these last months:

    Ravage: One of very few TF's that has the ability to use biological matter when transforming.
    Ravage takes the form form of the girl chasing after Shia and his friends (seen on set), where reports came of her having "cybernetic body parts".
    Therefore, Ravage is indeed using biologic weapons.
    The scene filmed where Ravage (most likely) attacks the car with the actors could be after they discovered the truth about him/her/it, and he/she/it is desperatly trying to get the "artifact".

    Jetfire/Prime-combo:
    Since Bob Orci told us that there will indeed be BIG robots in this movie, maybe Prime and Jetfire will join together to be able to fight Devastator/Long Haul/Whomever who is too big for the smaller one's to actually beat up.
    I don't like the idea either, but this could be a reason.

    Scorponok returning:
    Well, duh. Was there anyone who thought otherwise?

    Arcee getting killed early in the movie:
    Just because some people haven't seen "her", doesn't mean she isn't around. Of course there have been sets we don't know of.
    Besides, they don't do movies in chronological order. The scene with the bikes could very well be in the end of the movie.

    Jetfire's wormholes:
    Not that farfetched actually, since TF's have access to wormhole technology (for sending the cube halfway across the universe etc.), and as Jetfire is a scientist in G1, why couldn't he be the one who invented it?


    Other than that, I LOVE your blog mate, keep it up!

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  17. Yeah but they said: there will be a huge opening scene in China.. Mb the twins, arcee ???

    And what about the factory scene with the big explosions etc. Army fighting w000t?

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  18. Hello,

    Can anyone tell me where (which scene), could have been seen Barricade?

    We saw a picture earlier but nothing else...

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  19. POWERLINK!!!!!!...JETOPTIMUS, TRANSFORM!!!!!!

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  20. "POWERLINK!!!!!!...JETOPTIMUS, TRANSFORM!!!!!!"

    Greattttt, first geewunners, now UT kids xP

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  21. well, it probly doesnt matter now but i have some things to say

    for starters, i agree with the person before me who talked about soundwave's alt mode in animated, maybe not make him a scion xb, but i would like to see him be a pimped out *cough* "van" or even better "SUV" with HUGE F'n speakers, and have all the boom boxes inside of him, i.e. Ravage, Frenzy(deceased), lazerbeak, Rumble. that just seemed like the best idea to me, and close to G1's soundwave

    Arcee being 3 bikes combining together sounds kinda cool, but also seems like a pain in the butt, i do think she is a bike, proven by early concept art, and by the early prequel comics, but isn't it possible that she could change her alt. mode half way through the movie? much like bumblebee did, that might be the reason that we havent seen the bikes anymore than we have... but i have no idea what one of our fancy vehicles shed become

    im gonna say nay to cliffjumper, he was in a prequel comic, and look IDENTICAL TO BUMBLEBEE'S CYBERTRONIAN MODE, he just was red, anyway, as far as i know, he died in the prequel comic, killed by, i think it was dreadwing, so i dont think hell be in the movie

    hopes for devastator are looking bleak, as much as i loved the idea, but im not sure what theyd name him, if theyd keep the name even after the name debockle with brawl in the last movie, or come up with something else.... seems like he just wouldnt be devastator


    i really wish we had gotten the aircraft carrier ie tidal wave, it would be perfect for starscream's role as the new leader, and he brings all his flyer friends, skywarp, thundercracker, dreadwing, and theyre all aircrafts, and they chill on an aircraft carrier that serves the same role as the autobot's fortress maximus, but thats not happening, so i guess that means u didnt even have to read this paragraph, nor did i need to write it

    on the note of tidal wave, the rumors of Optimus and jetfire combining is not unoriginal, or even that farfetched. the idea comes from transformers armada, the only good show out of the Unicron Trilogy, where Jetfire was Optimus' second in command, and when he showed up, im pretty sure it was at the same time they needed to fight tidal wave, and combining made them kick so much more ass, he called himself Jet Convoy once, which was a mistranslation, or lack ther of, but he was called like Jet Prime or something, and essentially, he was just Optimus Prime that was bigger and could fly, so its entirely possible, and it HAS happened before

    on the note of bilogical warfare, its possible that the transformers, being inorganic, launch attacks on the humans that they are immune to, it's possible, incredibly cheap, but possible

    poor Hot Rod, i have no idea how they could do him now, they already used the vette for sum1 else, they could stick with cannon and make him a firebird, but after weve got a new concept vette out there, im afraid no one will be turned on by that, the only way i can see hot rod now, is with a foreign car, ferrari, lambo, something, but thats so unlikely, ive lost hope for him sorry guys


    and im pretty sure the fallen is in it, the character thats always on fire, that might get changed.... but i can see this going for a big set up with Unicron in the 3rd movie, since tha fallen is one of unicrons bitches

    yeah, thats what i think,

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  22. From what Ive been seeing I haven seen not one decepticon vehicle in none of the filming. The only thing i have seen was in the very beginning i saw about 2 or 3 mustangs(barricade). Has anybody else notice this?

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  23. Yep, I only saw the same. No Deceptiocons on the sets (except the silver Audi?)
    I hope he'll be back as he is one of the coolest character

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  24. Personally, i think the tfw and siebertron "informers" are either Bay himself or one of his workers. No proof, just random "confirmed" statments. A very poorly exected misinformation campaign.

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  25. no thats not misinfo, soundwave will be a boombox and optibus prime will combine with megatron
    Bay

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  26. Bay will combine with Burton and all the transformers with be black, and all the fight scenes will be at night, and all the explosions will be set to orchestrated music by Danny Elfman, whom combined with Steve Jablonsky.

    Orci

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  27. "Orci"

    Ohhhh, smart one, huh? Think that if you write "orci" right, we will fall for that?! HUH?! DO YOU?! But we are too intelylyly... intylygo... TO SMART for this! ;PPP

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  28. Maybe Soundwaves alt mode could of looked like this


    http://www.vvn.com/assets/images/t3cutout.jpg

    http://www.vsatus.com/Pictures/Hummer.jpg

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  29. To the guy above:

    Pretty cool, nice choices, and it's nice to see some realistic people, rather than "he should be a tape recorder, cose geewun roxxx!"

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  30. Thank God Arcee bites it. Couldn't stand to deal with that the whole movie.

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  31. Actually Arcee dosent bite the big one in the movie.

    She is in the movie but is rarely seen also she will be in Robotic mode most of the time.

    When Optimus & Jetfire combine they are called Jet-Convoy like in Transformers Armada and will have both of their special abilities in tact.

    When they combine it just increases there speed & strength 1fold think of how Goku becomes a Super Saiyen of Combines with Vegeta to make Gogeta same diffences in power combinatations.

    Have no clue onto what Soundwave or Ravage will be as ALT Modes. But it is cool they will be in the movie and hopefully some Lazerbeak will be in also.

    Devestator will be in the movie but he will have a breif sequence maybe a big fight against the Autobots and Humans towards the end of the film.

    Also I dont expect to See Optimus & Jetfire to combine too late in the film if it is indeed true. This will be against the Main Bad Guy.

    I do expect to see someone or Autobots or Decepticons to get killed or captured in this movie.

    I have no clue as to what NEST's involvement will be in the movie. But I do know that they are some sort of remnant of Sector-7 or possible a new secret orginzation to keep tabs on the war between the Autobots & Cons.

    Will we see Unicron at the end of the movie or will it end with a huge battle like cliffhanger and that will lead us into Transformers 3.

    Will Sam still be with the Autobots and lose his trust with Optimus Prime.

    What is his connections to the All-Spark Fragment which causes him to flipout like his Great Grandad Whitwicky did.

    No one knows for sure and Micheal Bay is doing a much better job this time keeping this movie a secret in regards to the 1st one.

    Overall I am super-excited for this movie and I am just happy that it is coming out and could end up as a possible trilogy or beyond.

    Keep up the good work Mr. Bay and I hope we get a Bad Boyz III soon.

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  32. To the guy above:

    Awww, you just forgot to say, that you know all this from fuckin awesone seibertron insider. Or did you just wanted to make it look, like you are awesome for knowing, what other do not?

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  33. Hello.

    I can confirm some of these rumors as an employee of Dreamworks.

    Jetfire is confirmed. He will be hurt and he will use a landing gear-which is NOT computer generated-as his crutch, however it is very unlikely that he will combine with Prime.

    Soundwave's alt mode is a satellite, I'm not so sure about Bay's plans for a truck.

    Scorpinok WILL return and there will be hell to pay :)

    Three bikes will combine for Arcee.

    The Chevy Trax is NOT Cliffjumper. This car is the RED car that people have been commenting about. The Trax is one of the "twins"... it's twin is the GREEN Chevy Beat (Skids).

    I hope I have helped a little, I'm not sure what has already been posted on this website since I ran across it by accident.

    Also, let me state that everything that has been "confirmed" by any source can change at the drop of a hat. Bay can have a vision of one thing one day and dream up something completely crazy the next. An on-going motto on any Michael Bay set is "It's Bay, you never know". I promise though, you won't be disappointed!

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  34. "I can confirm some of these rumors as an employee of Dreamworks."

    If you are Dreamworks employee, than i am your mother f******. Say hello, to yer papa :D

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  35. why do people keep referring to the Twins? there were no Twins in Autobot history. The only thing close to twins is sunstreaker and sideswipe, but those 2 compact cars do not resemble Lamborghinis in any way.

    Oh there was a bot called Twin twist, but he was not very well known.

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  36. "those 2 compact cars do not resemble Lamborghinis in any way."

    Yeah, and Ironhide sooo reasemble his alt from G1, just like Rathet, and Bumblebee, and Jazz, and others, right...?

    And if you say, that ther weren't twins in TF history, than you say that there were... Uh...?

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