Friday, November 14, 2008

New TF2 Trailer with 007? Nope

Maybe it was just my theatre, but there was no Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen trailer with Quantum of Solace. Neither was the Star Trek trailer. I am thinking there will be no trailer this week mainly because there is not the usual studio promotional push with leaks to major movie websites and magazines. The theory was based on comments from Orci that a promotional push would start in November and just rumors in general. Keep in mind though that no one officially ever used the word "trailer" when describing promotional plans for the movie, so while I am disappointed there really isn't anyone to blame.

Now that I have seen Quantum of Solace, it seems like a good call to not air the trailer with that film. It will not be the biggest movie of the season as it will likely have a great weekend and then quickly flameout due to poor word of mouth. The acting is good, the story serviceable, the woman beautiful, but the villain is a joke. But that isn't the problem. The problem is either a poor director or editor. The film seemed edited by someone with a hyper version of ADD. During action sequences, I defy you to find a moment that lasted more than 3 seconds before there was a cut. During no action points, the number climbed to at most 8 seconds. There was probably excellent, epic Bond-like stunts and effects in the movie but everything was so cut to pieces that you could not enjoy them. In there was an excellent 007 flick but horrible editing resulted in a horrible movie. I cannot recommend the movie and suggest you wait till it’s at the cheap theatre or can rent it. See Casino Royale or another Bond movie again if you need a 007 fix.

This leads me to wonder if Paramount and Bay knew what a disaster Quantum was going to become and decided to attach the movie to a better, possibly Twilight (out 11/21). I hope that is the case. Time will tell as always but if suddenly multiple magazines and websites start getting Transformers 2 information, take that as a strong hint that a trailer is coming.

70 comments:

  1. Twilight, Twilight, Twilight!!! It would be very smart to attach TF2 to Twilight. The amount of people who see it will be much more than 007, I am positive.

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  2. welli just gt back from seeing that movie and yeah no transformers trailer i scram S.O.B OUT LOUD WHEN THE MOVIE STARTED BUT
    HERE IS THE MOVIE TRAIER LINE UP FR MY THEATER

    1. 2012 TEASER
    2. The Day The Earth Stood Still
    3. Watchmen
    4. Star Trek Trailer NEW
    5 Seven Pounds


    thats all folks!

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  3. "Twilight, Twilight, Twilight!!! It would be very smart to attach TF2 to Twilight. The amount of people who see it will be much more than 007, I am positive."

    What the heck is Twilight...?

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  4. from,Ricco Rideaux- Twilight is a gay vampire movie,think Covenant meets Ambercrombe and Fitch.In the 90210 zip code.

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  5. It's some type of vampire movie that I guess was a very popular book or something. Beats me other than that. I want my TF2!!!

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  6. "from,Ricco Rideaux- Twilight is a gay vampire movie,think Covenant meets Ambercrombe and Fitch.In the 90210 zip code."

    Oh... That's what i tought. Thanks :)

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  7. Don't agree with the panning you've given Bond.... I thought it was a great movie. Yes not the best bond out there... but most certainly not the worst IMHO

    I think the biggest problem QoS has is that it's the next bond after Casino Royale, which IMHO is one of, if not the, best recent bond movie.

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  8. They won't attach it to Twilight, the demographic is all wrong. That movie is for teenage girls and their moms.

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  9. "They won't attach it to Twilight, the demographic is all wrong. That movie is for teenage girls and their moms."

    Gonna have to disagree with you there. Teenage girls and their moms are the ideal demographic because they know us lads are going to see it regardless.

    It's like politics - don't waste time pandering to the people who are going to vote for you anyway, it's the undecideds you have to appeal to

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  10. honestly, you guys need to calm down. acting like a lil puppy peeing on my leg.

    TF2 will be with TDTESS.

    There's nothing wrong with waiting.

    Plus, why mix our trailer in with Watchemn, Star Trek, and Terminator trailers.

    We want the TF2 trailer to standout. We want everyone talking about it when you walk out the theater and not the film they just saw.

    Why do we feel the need to rush one out now?? Because look at everyone of the posts above this one...you're already hooked! We got you where they want you.

    (yes, i work on the set in PA, NM, and CA. But feel free to bad mouth me anyway.)
    Just a hint....You might be a lil more pissed than excited when the trailer comes out. I've heard(and this is all I'll say, it's going to be a big tease)
    How do I know? Because everyone on the NM set knew a certain scene was shot just for trailer.

    Enjoy this site.

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  11. ...Oh and yes, I have posted a few inside clues about the film on here before.

    Truth be know, a lot of us on set don't know what most of the new TF look like.(CGI to be done later)
    We had code-names for TF stand ins.

    For ex., We used poles with lil heads on top to help actors with reference points. Never got names like "soundwave" or "starscream."

    There was so much going on, you almost miss the fact that the scenes had robots in them. It was like any other movie I've worked on. Except MB shoots really fast.

    I love this reading this site. I've got a month before I have to jump onto another movie.(no action, it's a love story) :-(

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  12. I wasn't expecting it to be in front of Bond. We knew from studios that Trek was gonna be there, but there was no official news on TF2 being there. It was all just wishful thinking on the fan's part. I still think it will come out in December like the first movie.

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  13. twilight won't even make top of the box offfice next week. a disney cartoon will be tops next week.

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  14. @ the chad

    Tech. the first teaser for Transformers was tied with PoC Dead Man's Chest and that came in July 2006. A Year before the movie. It didn't really show much of anything, But still. I'd be willing to have the same treatment all over again for this installment.

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  15. "from,Ricco Rideaux- Twilight is a gay vampire movie, think Covenant meets Ambercrombe and Fitch.In the 90210 zip code."

    wow, couldn't have put it better myself xD

    is the Watchmen trailer a new one?

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  16. when i saw 007 they played the trek trailer...and i must say it was very cool

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  17. word has it, twilight has already sold *0% of opening day tickets.

    Gay or not, there's a large young audience going to see that movie.

    would be a good chance to see TF2.

    I dought it.

    My money is on TDTESS.

    I'm sure a full trailer will be in march with Watchmen.

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  18. sorry, i meant 80% of tickets

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  19. It has already been confirmed that the Wolverine trailer will be in front of TDTESS, so what you're saying about your trailer standing out makes no sense.

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  20. wat is TD TESS?

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  21. The Day The Earth Stood Still. 1950's Sci-Fi Remake.

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  22. No way would Paramount add the trailer with that Twilight movie, like posted way above, it is for teenage girls and there mothers. I don't even know if there mothers would approve, it ruins the entire concept of a real vampire. Apparently sunlight, garlic, holy water, The Cross, etc. doesn't kill or hurt them. Unfortunately , like snortpocket said, most "lads" will be dragged along to see it. It would still be a bad move for the comp., unless they plan that the trailer will haul in the money for twilight itself and not the actual movie.

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  23. Hi there! I read the new "Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince" trailer will be premiering the next friday before "Twilight"... no "Transformers Revenge of the Fallen" trailer. I think that TF2 trailer will be premiered before some Paramount or Dreamworks new movie... so we have to wait...

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  24. Saw QoS and I disagree too, it was a great movie, but not the best bond to date.

    I'm gonna have to go with the majority here on Twilight, no TF2. I think it could possibly be attached to TDTESS, but my mony is on Star Trek. I know its a bit close to TF2 release, but think of it this way. We are already salivating over its coming, so why not drag it out and keep up the interest by teasing us with these rumors of a trailer and keep us digging into whatever they feed us, so right now they have us feeding out of their hands.

    FIGHT THE CONSPIRACY! WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS, BAY!!!!!!!!

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  25. NO TF2 trailer, true... I just came from a late showing of Quantum here at LA, but the Star Trek trailer looks AMAZING!!!!!!

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  26. New (maybe)Soundwave toy photo:

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=392&sid=7cfcb3b690430999adbc82aba4a4a84b#p392

    Look at his head. It does look like him... What fo you think?

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  27. "New (maybe)Soundwave toy photo:

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=392&sid=7cfcb3b690430999adbc82aba4a4a84b#p392

    Look at his head. It does look like him... What fo you think?"


    Holy shit, you are right! That's a good sneak picture. Damn, this must be it. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. At least the head/face looks good. I hope this isn't a fake. But i also wish it was beacause i can't see how he could have his on board minions in this form, i don't know....>:I Hmmmmm.........

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  28. "New (maybe)Soundwave toy photo:

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=392&sid=7cfcb3b690430999adbc82aba4a4a84b#p392

    Look at his head. It does look like him... What fo you think?"


    Holy shit, you are right! That's a good sneak picture. Damn, this must be it. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. At least the head/face looks good. I hope this isn't a fake. But i also wish it was beacause i can't see how he could have his on board minions in this form, i don't know....>:I Hmmmmm.........

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  29. Upon further inspection of this latest picture, i would suggest that the 3 blue concave impressions on his chest could possibly be docking ports for 3 of his minions?



    Anybody?



    Anybody?







    Bueler?




    Bueler?



    >fart<

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  30. No Star Trek or TF2 trailer here in OKC...and you're right, Quantam was somewhat disappointing. I thought I was going to get motion sickness in the first scene, the editing was so bad.

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  31. "Upon further inspection of this latest picture, i would suggest that the 3 blue concave impressions on his chest could possibly be docking ports for 3 of his minions?"



    As someone else stated (don't remember where), they could be to blast "soundwaves"as possible weapons. Or maybe he just likes pretty blue lights on his chest.

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  32. Here's what I predict, and I could be way off: I personally don't think we'll see ANY TF:ROTF trailers or anything until December, most likely MID-December. Let's be real: they just wrapped shooting a couple weeks ago, right? There is NO WAY IN HELL that they even have enough CGI rendered (pre-vis renders DON'T COUNT, as that's what they are: pre-vises NOT COMPLETED FILM FOOTAGE)and animated to do a full trailer. It may just be a teaser, like the anonymous poster said about the NM shoot.

    And to anonymous: they used sticks with heads on them when they filmed the first Transformers film - that's not anything really earth-shattering and neither is the fact that code-names were used, as that, too, was a method used during the filming of the first film, and to some degree it failed, because Brawl ended up getting the name of a certain G1 combiner, which leads to a HUGE continuity problem if said combiner really is appearing in TF:ROTF.

    Now, while I understand that Bay wants to fake people out, and to some degree is justified, due to all the bullshit he had to deal with from crazy dickheads during the production of TF1 (and some of the production of this film, like the extra that was a COMPLETE ASS), I gotta say this: this faking out shit is getting really fucking old. I mean, they're in post production, now! How about coming clean this time, or not saying a damn thing at all? 'Cause sooner or later, the truth is going to come out anyway.

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  33. "'Cause sooner or later, the truth is going to come out anyway."



    With that being said, I believe this guy is legit now after seeing the Soundwave concept and toy:

    http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/10/unknown-tf-fan-art.html

    Not sure who he is of course but he looks a little like the bot shown in the clip of the Insider getting his butt kicked by BB (I don't think it's Barricade).-->

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6GUhg_BUyk

    Remember these guys can retract their weapons when they want to so don't say "But he doesn't have all his guns" (plus you can't see much detail in the video anyway).

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  34. New Soundwave image? Look at the face? Its got the face guard! and looks like his head. If the toy is real?

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=11257

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  35. One thing I found interesting about Twilight is that a character has the last name "Cullen".

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  36. The TF:RotF Soundwave Toy looks nothing like what Bay would conjure up. Soundwave would probably have a retractable faceplate like Prime.

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  37. "New Soundwave image? Look at the face? Its got the face guard! and looks like his head. If the toy is real?

    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=11257"

    Yeah, i already posted that above. Hey, BTW, welcome back mister "i know everything, and never am wrong" :D

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  38. LOL belive me I am wrong, I am wrong alot. Sorry if i missed your post. 8)

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  39. Oh god, Twillight. Don't even start.

    Scriptwriter, director, actors... Everyone involved in it despise the source material its based on.

    But the ammount of 13 year old girls that crave it sure is the right audience for a transforming space robot movie right?

    Sparkly vampires and undead burning death robots, there is a connection right?

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  40. I WAS SEARCHING THROUGH TRANSFORMERS HISTORY ON WIKIPEDIA AND RAN ACROSS THE TRANSTECH SERIES THAT WAS SCRAPPED IN FAVOR OF ROBOTS IN DISGUISE. HASBRO MADE SEVERAL PROTOTYPES THAT WERE LATER RELEASED, BUT WERE NEVER PUT INTO PRODUCTION. THESE PROTOTYPES INCLUDED OPTIMUS PRIME, STARSCREAM AND MEGATRON. SOMEONE POSTED LINKS ON WIKIPEDIA TO PICS OF THESE PROTOTYPES AND BLUEPRINTS.

    I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE THE CONCEPT FOR MEGATRON:

    http://www.behindthetoys.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7205

    IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE CONCEPT FOR MEGATRON RELEASED A FEW MONTHS AGO!

    THEORY: Michael Bay seems to be using ideas never really explored by Hasbro, like Skids who was never really a main character, thus would explain why the RotF Megatron Tank looks like this.

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  41. don' be suprised if the trailer comes out with The Spirit on christmas

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  42. oh and twilight is gonna gargle my balls. nothing like a gay sparkling vampire movie to keep me away from the movies

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  43. why do ppl keep thinkin its a full trailer we're gettin by the end of the year.....its a teaser we're waiting on....plus they sed dat there wud be a major marketing push this month

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  44. saw QOS last night in Gledora CA the star trek trailer was on i looks good but no transformers 2 maybe the next big movie.

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  45. Going to see Twilight 1st day it comes out ^.^ I'm really hoping for a TF2 trailer....

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  46. TFLIVE GIVE US MORE NEWS!

    WE THIRST!!!

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  47. Seriously, I thrive on this blog.

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  48. what about Bolt? nov 21st and it'll be huge for kids and their families. they've got their key hardcore fans like us. get the younger generation. just a thought. especially over the holiday. also heard a rumor that it could run in the dvd release of dark knight. he's still kickin himself for not having it ready for the 2nd biggest movie in history. it'll be the best selling dvd for some time so why not?

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  49. ****ATTENTION*****

    It's confirmed, THE FALLEN is a real character and will be in the sequel.

    read here;

    “[We're going to] explore the background of The Fallen — the main villain of the movie — as well as expand on the ‘Reign of Starscream’ story that we’re doing and tie everything in to what this next movie is going to be,” explained writer Chris Mowry, who partners on the book with artist Alex Milne. “The next movie starts out with just tons of action and there’s obviously going to be a lot of questions, so we’re hoping to answer some of those beforehand.”

    This was a slip up by the writers for the comic sequel/prequel coming out next month.
    Makes sense in everyway.
    1. The title is REVENGE OF THE FALLEN
    2. The Megatron new look goes with the transformer storyline that he was converted.
    3. The starscream story ties in perfect.


    There, let it finally be done....THE FALLEN IS REAL AND WILL BE IN THE MOVIE.

    DONE, DONE, AND DONE.

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  50. Around 6.5 million years ago, a test of the experimental "space bridge" matter-transport system on Cybertron liberated the Fallen from his prison, and he materialized on Cybertron, where he quickly recruited the Chaos Trinity, three mystically-inclined Decepticons - Bludgeon, Mindwipe and Bugly - into his employ. Abducting Transformers that he identified as possessing "genetic potential" within their sparks - Grimlock, Blitzwing, Jetfire and Hot Spot - the Fallen planned to use their energies to awaken Primus from his self-imposed slumber, thereby alerting Unicron to his location, allowing the world-eater to renew hostilities with his old enemy. An attack from combined Autobot and Decepticon forces led by Shockwave and Prowl disrupted his plans, and Primus himself reached out and promptly destroyed the Fallen.

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  51. About two posts above me... Dude, give a source, or STFU, and stop waisting our time...

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  52. the source he/she's talking about is the writers for the comic series that are putting out next several months leading up to the movie. it was posted onling back in sept. google it.

    these writers are working inconjuction with the producers for TF2

    i've been on this site off and on many times. but the one thing i don't understand is why sooooo many on here don't think "the fallen" is a true transformer and will be in the movie.

    to me, there's already so many clues it's possible.

    even the producers talk about the mythology of the transformers for this movie.

    where do you think that's coming from? the origin. with that, you get "the fallen" and all the others before OP and MEG.

    To me it's not a downer knowing this "fallen" character is going to be apart of the new movie. only diehards will know about him. it will be news to most others.
    Could be a very complex storyline.

    So, hope we aren't "wasting your our f-ing time"
    lol

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  53. Everyone is forgetting Transporter 3, which totally fits the demographic for Transformers. It's out in two weeks.

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  54. And the director for Transporter 3 is named Olivier MEGATON. Coincidence? I think not.

    According to IMDb, Transporter 3 is being distributed by Lionsgate. I know Lionsgate and Paramount are connected, but do you usually see previews from both comapnies before their films?

    GODDAMNIT I CANT WAIT UNTIL JUNE 2009

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  55. I told you, it's gonna be TDTESS!!

    It's the next big movie. Wolverine and TF2 trailer

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  56. if that;s the case, then where's this big november marketing push?

    they haven't marketed shit

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  57. That's what you think!

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  58. "So, hope we aren't "wasting your our f-ing time"
    lol"

    Oh yeah, yeah, they said ttah... And then, it was said, that they never even had a script in theyr hands, but hell, THEY said, that thet did! You are totaly right!

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  59. I never said they had a script. even the comic writers said they didn't see script.(didn't need to.)

    They worked with TF2 producers about what robots to use and not use inconjuction with upcoming movie.

    It's not rocket science or top secret material.

    The fallen is the main villian in the movie.

    done.

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  60. "They worked with TF2 producers about what robots to use and not use inconjuction with upcoming movie."

    If they did work with them, then they had to see the script, to know, how the plot in the comic should be to work with the movie. They can't just say "use him, and him, and him, but you can't see the script! you're on your on, and the comic book better not deny the movie plot!"

    How do you think they could do that, without seing a script?

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  61. ^^SHIT ON A SHINGLE



    www.idwpublishing.com/.../hos/shockwave.jpg

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  62. Wow the rude comments about Twilight are pretty uncalled for. I happen to be a mid-20s male and enjoyed that book cover-to-cover. Those of you making negative comments about it clearly have never read it.

    TDTESS is my vote for the trailer though.

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  63. "Wow the rude comments about Twilight are pretty uncalled for. I happen to be a mid-20s male and enjoyed that book cover-to-cover. Those of you making negative comments about it clearly have never read it."

    Why ofcourse, you a right that they never read this book because... um... because... I guess, you are just a fanboy, who can't stand, that somebody have a diferent opinion from yours xP Boo hoo.

    Seroiusly, you are a telepath, or what?

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  64. Trailer isn't on with Twilight. My friend just got back from seeing it.

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  65. "Why ofcourse, you a right that they never read this book because... um... because... I guess, you are just a fanboy, who can't stand, that somebody have a diferent opinion from yours xP Boo hoo.

    Seroiusly, you are a telepath, or what?"

    Seriously, are you so ignorant that you are trying to insult someone else using that poor grammar and spelling? Seriously.

    /endsarcasm

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  66. "Seriously, are you so ignorant that you are trying to insult someone else using that poor grammar and spelling? Seriously.

    /endsarcasm"

    Well, sorry for not being born in UK or USA and for that, that i have to learn this langue ;P Oh, and sorry for not being mr perfect like you, mr perfect.

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  67. Damn, Bay has us arguing with each other over the damn trailer. We need the trailer or this is gonna end up in a civil war.

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  68. "Damn, Bay has us arguing with each other over the damn trailer. We need the trailer or this is gonna end up in a civil war."

    M. Bay: (Shoting Anonymous down) No, it won't now.

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  69. I buy shaiya gold, just because I like it.

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