Saturday, February 14, 2009

Toy Fair Reveals Devastator and Other TFs (Updated)

Devastator $100 versionToy Fair 2009 is on at New York and multiple sites are putting up huge galleries of pictures of toys for the Transformers 2 toy line (see below) including Devastator (yep the picture was accurate), Mudflap, Skids, a new one called Breakaway and many more. All very cool.

As far as Devastator goes, there are three versions planned. The first is the $100 version where the six individual Constructicons do not have robot modes, just vehicles mode that reconfigure to form the gestalt (think Voltron). That Devastator will be 2 feet high and about 4 feet wide. The next is the individual Constructicons that do have robot forms but cannot merge. The last is the PowerBot that doesn't really transform, it’s the Devastator look on the front and the individual vehicles painted on the back.

Breakdown of the six constructions:
     Demolishor - red O&K/Terex RH400 Hydrolic Mining Excavator (torso)
     Rampage - yellow Caterpillar 992G Front Loader (right arm)
     Long Haul - green Caterpillar 773B Dump Truck (right leg)
     Mix Master - silver Mack Cement Mixer (head)
     High Tower - yellow Kobelco CK2500 Truss Crane (left arm)
     Scrapper - yellow Caterpillar D9L Bulldozer (left leg)

As you can see, the RH400 from the trailer gets an official name. Overall the leak back in October was on the mark on the Constructicons except for the duplicate dump truck which now seems to have been a potential alt design for Long Haul.

I don't know if the two aerial Autobots, Breakaway (F-35 Joint Strike Fighter) and Springer (V-22 Osprey), are movie characters. Below are select pictures from the various galleries. For the highlights of Hasbro's plans for their various Transformer lines click here.

Galleries: TFormers | The Allspark | TFW2005 | More TFormer pics (over 100 pics) | Seibertron.com (100s of pics) | Transformers Club

Long Haul, Devastator's right legHigh Tower, Devastator's left armMix Master, Devastator's headScrapper, Devastator's left legRampage, Devastator's right armScavenger, Devastator's bodyRampage robot modeDevastatorDeluxe MudflapDeluxe Mudflap, Chevy TraxDeluxe SkidsDeluxe Skids, Chevy Spark/BeatDeluxe BreakawayDeluxe Breakaway, jetLegends SpringerLegends Springer, V-22 Osprey)

Thanks to Elis and Boo for the links and pictures.

99 comments:

  1. Devastator looks BEASTLY!!!!

    I reckon he's about 100-120 feet tall. He could easily crush Mudflap and Skidz, (and hopefully he does) and is that's going to mean BIG TROUBLE for the Autobots!

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  2. woo hoo for the v-22 Osprey Autobot!

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  3. I'd like you all to notice the Bulldozer construction which has a closeup on TFW2005, looks alot like Bonecrusher, no? The G1 bulldozer was named Bonecrusher.

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  4. There seem to be two sets of Constructicons show from the toy fair. Ones with seperate robot modes and ones that seem to only combine into Devastator.

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  5. They all look good with one exception
    Hint: he looks like a freakin power ranger thingy (will probably get him though, sigh)

    Also, the reason his head is baisicly the truck stuck on top of the reat of it is because it's stuffed with lights and sounds crap to keep the kids happy

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  6. Tformers.com has him listed as Rampage though, so I'm a bit confused by that. Is it a placeholder name or is there another reason for the resemblance?

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  7. i want to see JETFIRE!!!!!!!

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  8. I would've hoped he was bigger too, for an MSRP of $100 he should've been the biggest TF toy ever, but he doesn't appear any bigger than Unicron and certainly not as big as Metroplex. Some shots show a leader prime nearby and he doesn't appear much larger.

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  9. Only jetfire shot I've seen so far is in the gallery on tformers.com, and it's the legends class we've already seen.

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  10. who's that autobot vehicle beside mudflap and ratchet...

    http://www.tfw2005.com/i/photos/DSC00821.JPG

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  11. Legends Jetfire isn't good enough!!!
    and when will we see megatron aswell? we all know he's in it so it doesn't matter

    PS. is it me or does legends jetfire seem to be holding his wheel crutch thingy in his hand??
    PSS. Jetfire and sideswipe better kick some serious ass or i going jave a major fanboy hissy fit (oh wait i already started)

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  12. i know this is a little off topic but the two animated toys seen so far kick most of the movie lines asses. also from looking at all of these forums i think that im one of few that like the twin + where the hell is the blue atoubots proper toy and whats his name

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  13. Wow, Jolt as a transformer toy looks terrible. Hell, the Volt as a car looks terrible too. What's the point of a regular sedan as a transformer anyway? It really upsets me that with the vehicle transformers we're limited mainly to GM cars.

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  14. im kinda dissapointed with devastator. if there are 2 different sets one combine set and one set of own robot modes. getting both would be like £180 thats not good

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  15. who's that autobot vehicle beside mudflap and ratchet...

    Not Autobot ;P Bonecrusher, from the first movie.

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  16. 100 bucks for that piece of crap? Hell no

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  17. WHOA WHOA WHOA HOLD THGE FUGG UP...whats this s@#t about the combiner constructicons not individually transforming into their alt modes???...and that you can buy them separate and that they do have an alt mode but not combine??? someone help me out on this

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  18. If the Devastator toy walks I will forgive it for having a tater head and bots that don't transform into their individual bot modes.

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  19. Is anyone else as worried as I am about skids and mudflap? Their toys make them look even more stylistically different than all the other transformers.

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  20. Yea...They have weird shaped heads,makes em different

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  21. Freakin' sweet.

    The biggest questions I have are: will Breakaway and Springer be in the movie? Or will their characters be exclusive to the toyline?

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  22. ^^ as it's understood at this point both are just part of the toy line. They could of course be in the movie and we're just not aware yet.

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  23. This devastator looks like a Rainbow turd that i squeezed out of my arse the day after eating a spicy bean salad,if optimus dies in this movie michael bay is a dead man

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  24. Skids and Mudflap would be fine if only they had completely different head designs. Shame, really. They made them look like deformed transformers or something. Ugh, I hope this doesn't mean they'll have an annoying personality to go with their retarded looking faces.

    I still can't get over Devy, though. Very disappointing. They have alt modes but they don't have robot modes? It's also nowhere near the rumored 2 ft. I wonder how the articulation is with that. Either way, no bot modes+mediocre design+100 bucks=easy pass.

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  25. I don't like the design of the toy that much. Maybe it will look better in the movie.

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  26. I had to ask: Why Rampage be named as one of the Contructicons? There are other names like Hook or Wideload or something. Whatever the writer's reasons, surely they let us know.

    Note: Rampage is the original part of G1 Predacons.

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  27. ^^ I think Rampage is a placeholder, notice the resemblance to Bonecrusher.

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  28. Devastator looks fucking queer... If Hasbro wanted to make a bad ass toy they could make the ones with robot modes combine..

    i have to say that Devy is just as gay as the thought of having "the fallen" in the movie..

    Fucking' a man... I'm gonna go get a Cleveland steamer from my g/f.. later jealous bitches

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  29. Prime is to awesome to die. The twins I think will be good for the movie for some more comic relief you know two brothers fighting and getting on each others nerves. Im sure they blame each other for crashing into something when they are combined together as the ice cream truck. I am glad that they pick other forms later.

    As far as air support, looks like the autobots are going to get some (breakaway) but I dont know if it will be enough to take on the decepticon aircraft.

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  30. Toy fair 2009 said:
    Word is there will be ANOTHER SET WITH ROBOTS THAT TRANSFORM, but they will NOT COMBINE into one. You can see this illustrated in the images of Rampage robot (shown above) and alternate mode compared to the alternate / combiner images.
    Toy fair said:
    Okay well the ONE we're all dying the see was there. He's Devastator and he's got a team of sic Transformers with ALTERNATE MODES that make up the two foot tall robot. Sold a set you'll get Rampage, Scavenger, Scrapper, Hightower, Long Haul, and Mix Master to make your combiner Devastator.
    Scorpio says:
    Does this mean that the supreme class £99.99 figure will not have seperate robot modes. Please someone tell me if this it true! If so i am definately not buying it even if it is TWO FOOT tall. Does this also mean that if you want Devastator and all the robots with there robot modes that you have to buy the supreme class devastator and all the seperate robots. Someone please tell me if this is true. Sorry for the long post.

    P.s. I wont be able to reply for a week!

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  31. Also a few complaints:

    1. You have to buy Vehicles that dont transform
    2. Devastator is priced at £99.99
    3. He looks extremely unstable especially near the legs.

    I hope hasbro recals this toy and produces a transforming combining group of constructicons rather than this piece of crap!

    I am not going to buy it!

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  32. Wait wait i just figured it out. :)

    Toy fair 2009 said:
    Word is there will be another set with robots that transform, but they will not combine into one. You can see this illustrated in the images of Rampage robot (shown above) and alternate mode compared to the alternate / combiner images.
    Scorpio says:
    This means there will be another cheaper set without the transformations of the constructicons most likely one like the FAB vechiles of Devastator!

    Though what happened to a leader class fallen?

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  33. Avid Singapore Fan2/14/2009 11:37 PM

    There's a picture of Soundwave posted on Tformers that makes him look like a gigantic kick ass sword of some sort. Bay and Hasbro said that there is a reason for his design. Perhaps, (by a long shot alebit), that the Fallen uses him as a weapon? What do you guys think?

    It's a pity that Hasbro made Devs from non-transformable Constructicons and another set of Constructicons that do transform. It's a marketing gimmick probably to have more money (isn't that always the case?). But I wonder whether Scavenger (Steam Shovel), that we have seen thus far belongs to the non-transformable Devs or on it's own? Cos 1) It does transform but 2) It's not as detailed as the bulldozer that CAN transform.

    A penny for our thoughts.

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  34. Dev's face could be better... Now completely sold on Devastator's multiple color scheme, but it will take time once I see him on the big screen.

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  35. What a bunch of cry babies... These are all bad ass fucking toys...... Don't sit there and bitch and moan about em all night either you're going to buy them or not...

    Breakaway is SWEET!!! I hope he is in the movie...

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  36. The Dev Toy is OK.. I'm really excited about it confirming the earlier image as being devastator as that render looks awesome and menacing.

    I'm guessing Breakaway will be in the movie.
    It's the Joint Strike Fighter F-35... which is the next generation stealth fighter that kind of goes in tandem with the F-22 raptors.

    If he and springer are in the film and if Jetfire turns to autobot at some point.. I'm wondering if we'll see a Bay version of Superion.

    Still would have liked to have seen Grimlock terrorize the decepticons ;)

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  37. Counterpunch2/15/2009 12:54 AM

    OMG! I have to agree with bjoneill. And funny enough in the other thread I was suggesting one of the Aerialbots to be a F-35. This is sweet...

    I am cool with Osprey being a part of Superion as well. Now 3 more Autobot jets to go. Hope Skyblast & Wingblade are in this as well.

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  38. Soundwave look like a sword.

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  39. that would really suck if the $100 Devastator individual vehicles do not transformer into robot mode, it would make the whole set pointless, and there is no way that would be worth $100, and how funny would it be if they renamed Rampage to "Hooks"? You would have "high Tower" and "Hooks"

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  40. Counterpunch2/15/2009 2:35 AM

    Who the heck designed the twins heads???!!!!!

    Its not fugly. It's undescribable!

    Heck even Frenzy has a better face.

    What is wrong with their eyes?

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  41. I think the pose is what makes devestator look smaller...i tllos like hes bent at the knees
    Reminds me of the pose that he was in when the desgn leaked a few days ago

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  42. SEVEN constructicons... you miss this place in the images...

    http://tformers.net/g/generated/10983/Devastator-Rampage-(Vehicle)__scaled_600.jpg

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  43. Counterpunch2/15/2009 3:06 AM

    6 only!

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  44. They're missing the NEEDED 4th variation. A mini-version of devestator that has constructicons that have robot modes AND combine into Devestator. That's the one that's wanted most. But apparently Hasbro didn't figure that out.

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  45. hehe guys check this pic...devastator looks lyk Bunny rabit......why those he have those red hears?'?

    http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&album=10985&pic=414.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

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  46. im confused now... Who makes up the torso? Demolisher or scavenger?

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  47. demolisher is the Scavenger's NAme.....as Bumblebee is the CAmaro's name

    get it?

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  48. To the poster above there is no such vehicle as a scavenger. Scavenger was the name somepoeple were calling demolisher before the toy was released.

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  49. I think im gonna be sick. Why couldnt they just make the constructicons triple changers with a robot mode, a limb mode and a vehicle mode. I would rather have paid more for a triple changer than have to buy devastator and the constructicons seperately. Just disgusts me.

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  50. Devy looks monstrous, and will be fierce in the movie.

    The faces of Skids and Mudflapzorz look sad. Deformed I'd say. Why ?

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  51. what if they are siamese twins and get seperated in battle, ratchet fixes them up, would explain the ice cream truck becoming 2.

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  52. Demolisher and Scavenger are two different transformers, aren't they? I dun think they are the same.

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  53. I See Constructicon Green Repaint!!! Plz That Would be Awesome and Worth £100

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  54. Something I was wondering, now that we have more info and know Devastator is in the movie, do you think there's a chance he might not be at the end?

    We know Demolisher is at the steel plant(China) and I would guess the other constructicons would be there too, but I thought the climax was gonna be in Egypt. It just seems nuts to not have him at the end of the film, but maybe I'm wrong.

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  55. the mofo is huge !!!! look at prime next to him !

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  56. I think most of these toys are cool. I share the sentiments on the no-alt-mode Constructicons for Devastator. And Jolt does indeed look like shit in robot-mode. Everything else looks cool to me.

    Breakaway is, like bjoneill mentioned, an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter... which, IMO, strengthens the case for this character actually being in the movie. Why? An F-35 sits about 100ft away from the Blackbird SR-71 (Jetfire) at the Udvar-Hazy Smithsonian Museum. So who knows?

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  57. on an early post when you click on the word devastator , they listed an extra articulating dump truck as a seventh constructicon. Even in the background or the first image of dev there looks like there are seven. Seven was just a rumor right?

    We need breakaway to take on starscream.

    And the twins are still going to be good comic relief.

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  58. Like his long-lost companions Skyfall and Landquake, he too has powerful energy manipulation abilities. Using Energon, he can restore even the most fatal of wounds. Breakaway is the guardian of a very important ball of rarefied Energon, displaced to Earth billions of years ago by Primus.

    I don't know if yall care or not but I found this on transformers wiki... So if he is in the movie then the autobots are def going to need him with all those bad ass Decepticons running around...

    Thanks for the F-35 info about breakaway I did'nt know what he was. I think Devestator is bad ass but too me Breakaway is the must have... He is awesome!!!

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  59. Counterpunch2/15/2009 8:38 AM

    Springer & Breakaway I hope are part of the Aerialbots.

    This is sweet.

    Told ya right CubanSteel :)

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  60. The F-35 is awesome but there is'nt a fighter jet on the planet that can keep up or manouver with F-22 Raptor...

    Starscream is in a leauge of his own...

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  61. Counterpunch... yes you did. I'm still hoping for a Superion appearance. Three Autobot aircraft so far, with this Breakaway guy, Jetfire, and Springer... who knows? Still no denial from the powers that be.

    For the record, It's be sweet to see a Predator UAV autobot!

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/predator/predator6.html

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  62. I am guessing the twins have seen a lot of action and look like that way from being pummeled in battle, while ratchet can fix many things without being on cybertron he must do the best he can for the damage done to thier heads. As for Devastator, I can't say I am 100% happy with the look of the toy, but that is just it, it is a toy for kids, maybe somewhere down the line they will do a more detailed one for collectors.

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  63. Counterpunch2/15/2009 9:49 AM

    CubanSteel:-

    If you read the TF Prequel Movie comics you can see the Autobots have 3 flyers on their side.



    Unfortunately Air Raid got killed by Thundercracker on Mars but both Skyblast & Wingblade are a small bunch of Autobot survivors on Cybertron & they're both huge!

    Who knows. Im betting on those 2 to reach Earth as well because Arcee is still on Cybertron in the TF Movie comics.



    PS to Anonymous above CubanSteel. What makes you think an Autobot flyer cant outmanouver Starscream? They're all robots at the end of the day & they can go as fast or do death defying tricks and they'd still be in 1 piece.

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  64. the break away jet or what ever it says is an autobot is this maybe jetfire??? also i thought all the airalbots were in it and whatever they combine into so it wont be all bads for the sutobots if that happens!!!

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  65. http://host.trivialbeing.org/galleries/transformers-20090214-toy-fair-toys-2/Jetfire.jpg


    just been onto another site and found jetfire!!! cleary see why people are getting confused to him being the fallen but CLEARLY now see they are different guys!!!!

    also he does have the weird arm canny wait till june

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  66. There is an error he says the RH400 name is Demolisher,but on the pic you could see it says "SCVNGR" on the side, short for Scavenger.

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  67. Geez! If ILM actually manages to pull off Devastator (without shorting out their hundreds of computers in the process), the VFX Academy Award is theirs for sure!

    But then again, I said the same thing in 2007, and the Academy decided to give the award to talking polar bears over "10,000 pieces moving and rotating forming a 30 foot robot that was once a real-looking vehicle that was racing down the highway at 80 mph". >:(

    I like how SOME of the Constructicons have robot modes. Hopefully Springer will actually be in the film; that will give some air support and size to the Autobot ranks.

    Yay for ILM!

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  68. PS to Anonymous above CubanSteel. What makes you think an Autobot flyer cant outmanouver Starscream? They're all robots at the end of the day & they can go as fast or do death defying tricks and they'd still be in 1 piece.

    Well maybe they can but based on what I've read and what everyone else already knows is the
    F-22 Raptor really is in a leauge of its own... The F-35 lightning 2 is alot heavier and bulkier then an F-22 Raptor and its a single engine fighter jet unlike the F-22 Raptor which can outfly every other fighter jet on the planet and that's without even turning on its afterburners.... I'm just saying an F-22 is unstoppable in the air..... Yes they are all robots in a movie but in real life...Nothing comes close. I just thought that being how realistic the military scenes seem to be to me in the Transformers movie that this might play a factor but you are right it is a movie...

    Either way I don't see Breakaway taking care of Starscream in the air anytime soon...If the Autobots or Megatron are going to get rid of Starscream it is going to have to be on the ground and not in the air..

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  69. Vector Prime2/15/2009 10:55 AM

    Hooray for Breakaway! I want this guy in the movie, mabye Springer too. It would be nice to see the Autobots have some real firepower. As for Devy, I think he looks very posable, so maybe that will make up for the lask of robot modes. Can't wait for the movie! \m/

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  70. I wonder why Hasbro doesn't make metal/aluminium deluxe high detailed versions Transformers figures just like Bandai did many times for the Gundam franchise?
    I bet they would be selling hundred thousands worldwide even at an high $200-$250 price range.

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  71. Why the fuck doesnt devastator have limbs that have vehicle modes. That means im gonna bascially have to buy the constructicons twice (which i wont be doing) just to get devastator robot mode and constructicons robot modes. In all honesty i dont think devastator looks that good anyways if you look at his head from the side It sticks out at the back way too much, i doubt the kids are gonna have much fun playing with it without breaking it and its not even much bigger than leader class prime. Why couldnt hasbro make the constructicons triple changers with a robot mode, a vehicle mode and a limb mode, I wouldnt mind if it ment that ment the toys didnt look as good because they dont look all that special now.

    Leader class prime look amazing and looks more accurate than the replica figure. Im also liking the twins deluxe figures as they look very movie accurate as far as toys go.

    Overall im happy with everything apart from Devastator. Its not really even a decepticon combinor. More like a big transformer with 6 altmodes.

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  72. Notice that the excavator has the word scvngr on the side of it i don't think its name is demolisher. Maybe the name demolisher is for the seventh constructicon.

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  73. Counterpunch2/15/2009 12:25 PM

    The only robot that can match or surpass Starscream's air superiority is his old pal, Jetfire.

    I think the SR-71 can surpass the F-22.

    We shall see in the movie.

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  74. "I think the SR-71 can surpass the F-22."

    -- In terms of speed, yes. But in a close range dogfight, no. The F-22 is much more agile with state of the art weaponry.


    Back to Devastator, if they were going to make a separate set without robot modes, they might as well make it one big statue robot with intricate detailing, such as robot replicas.

    I know I would gladly fork out $100 for a movie-accurate non-transforming figure.

    But since its a blocky non-transforming figure we got instead, i'll pass.

    I'm just keeping my fingers crossed they will eventually release a movie-accurate figure of Devy, whether its robot replicas, unleashed turnarounds or even a titanium one.

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  75. i've seen the box art from the toy fair...unfortunately it does say Demolisher...

    http://www.transformersclub.com/toyfair09/webfiles/demolishorbxF.jpg.html

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  76. CounterPunch, I'll have to check out those prequel comics... sounds cool. As far as air superiority goes.. the SR-71 was built for speed, it was a spy-plane. Don't recall the stats, but easily the fastest aircraft ever in the US line-up.. Mach 3-4? The F-22 Raptor is the next generation sh*t... total package. It would never catch a Blackbird in a race, but as far as maneuverability/avionics etc goes, the Raptor could take anything down that flies.

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  77. ^^ Box art is easily changed, most of these toys aren't coming out until August. Plus, I still say Rampage is a resurrected Bonecrusher, the head mold is nearly identical. I hope they use the 6 months until the Devastator release to clean it up or give it features worth $100, lights and sounds aren't gonna cut it, or it needs to be much bigger than it appears now. Tformers.com says it's 2' tall x 4' wide, it looks much closer to 1.5" tall, which would be a shame since it only be as big as unicron at that point. He listed for $60 at release if I recall. In fact I think the only TF toy that has listed for $100 in my memory was the Die cast 20th anniversary Prime.

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  78. Counterpunch2/15/2009 1:31 PM

    You know mates there were rumors saying we'd see an Autobot spy in the movie. Who will it be? My bet is on Barricade being the Autobot spy. Being the only Decepticon we see now who took a vehicle form.

    Just my assumption.

    If the Deceps have Soundwave as their military intelligence officer Im sure the Autobots also should have the same.

    Too bad we wont see Blaster in TF 2.

    Yep CubanSteel. I know the Blackbird is a spy plane. Just stating that Jetfire should be a good match for Starscream & vice versa.

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  79. Whoa Breakaway looks intense! an F-35 vs Starscream F-22?? omg I really hope they have a dogfight in the movie.

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  80. Come On guys Devastator toy its just crazy 2 feet tall and 4 feet wide ??? even my 32" HDTV its small side comparing to DEVASTATOR this guy its just a real SONof.... Huge Transformer ever made by hasbro.

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  81. The F-22 doesnt beat out the F-35 by THAT much..they both have thrust vectoring (extreme handling "package")the F-35 is more of a air 2 ground support...better in some ways than the F-22.....BUT...above posts are right...in a dogfight..F-22 hands down...IT IS one BAD mamma-jamma!!!!....i think the destruction of starscream will be pretty memorable knowing Bay's love of dramatic EXPLOSIONS!!















    PENTAGON!!!

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  82. Hey guys correct me if i am wrong but didn't the video of theRH400 show that it transformed into the wheeled giant and the torso and arms of devastator as well as its vehicle form? I don't see why they would make just the RH400 do this.

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  83. Hey guys correct me if i am wrong but didn't the video of theRH400 show that it transformed into the wheeled giant and the torso and arms of devastator as well as its vehicle form? I don't see why they would make just the RH400 do this.

    No it didn't :P Just watch the teaser one more time, and then look again at the toy, you will see a diference...

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  84. "The F-22 doesnt beat out the F-35 by THAT much..they both have thrust vectoring (extreme handling "package")the F-35 is more of a air 2 ground support...better in some ways than the F-22.....BUT...above posts are right...in a dogfight..F-22 hands down...IT IS one BAD mamma-jamma!!!!....i think the destruction of starscream will be pretty memorable knowing Bay's love of dramatic EXPLOSIONS!!"

    That's a pointless comparison.
    The F-35 is meant to replace the F-16's and other single engined planes. I'd venture to guess that it will end up being more maneuverable than the F-22 was and it can also be configured for STOVL which gives it the capabilities of a harrier jet. The F-22 is meant to replace the F-15 and other double engined jets.
    The two will work in tandem.. not together..

    One beating the other? No.. doesn't work that way.

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  85. $1000 says breakaway and springer are not in the film, or any of the aerialbots that make up superion.

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  86. omg I just realized something : the meteors crashing into the carrier and the jets : either we'll see the aerial bots in the film, or at the very end (so that they'll be in the third)

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  87. what is this about soundwave being a sword. By the power of grey skull anyone? That would seem like megatron being a hand held gun.

    Robots as jets can probably manuever way better than any human pilots so the fighting skills will depend on the robots not the jets.

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  88. That's a pointless comparison.
    The F-35 is meant to replace the F-16's and other single engined planes. I'd venture to guess that it will end up being more maneuverable than the F-22 was and it can also be configured for STOVL which gives it the capabilities of a harrier jet. The F-22 is meant to replace the F-15 and other double engined jets.
    The two will work in tandem.. not together..

    One beating the other? No.. doesn't work that way.

    I think they are saying a dog fight between breakaway and starscream then starscream would def win...Also the the F-35 could'nt come close to being able to maneuver like an F-22...That is just silly... the F-35 is far too heavy to come close....I mean the F-22 basically has a skin on it called polymers, that allows the F-22 to take heat and stress no other fighter jet can... Leauge of its own Speed and Manouverablity wise...

    The F-22 doesnt beat out the F-35 by THAT much..they both have thrust vectoring (extreme handling "package")the F-35 is more of a air 2 ground support...better in some ways than the F-22.....BUT...above posts are right...in a dogfight..F-22 hands down...IT IS one BAD mamma-jamma!!!!....i think the destruction of starscream will be pretty memorable knowing Bay's love of dramatic EXPLOSIONS!!

    Everything about the F-35 is correct but......The F-22 is highly maneuverable at subsonic and supersonic speeds so really the F-22 is THAT much better... we are talking about 1 F-22 taking on 5 to 6 F-16's or Migs and it not even being close to a fair fight b/c of the Radars on these things...

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  89. Yeah yeah yeah....either way...i hope we DO see that one on the big screen!!!!

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  90. Autobots are gonna need some serious firepower to handle Devastator...not to mention the return of Megs...and however much of a badass that Bay makes the Fallen!!! Wouldnt surpise me very much for bay to throw us a curveball and somehow have the twins take down Devastator...i think someone may have already posted that in a previous thread...










    !!!!BOOM BOOM!!!!

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  91. Counterpunch2/16/2009 2:19 AM

    Anonymous said...
    omg I just realized something : the meteors crashing into the carrier and the jets : either we'll see the aerial bots in the film, or at the very end (so that they'll be in the third)


    ... Yeah I already posted that in the other thread.


    PS Cmacc please stop with the lame ass Pentagon joke. You're being annoying with your posts anyway.

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  92. That would make perfect sense! Aerialbots! Because it is super logical that autobots would hurt humans!
    Plus the script treatment that leaked a while ago, it is said to be soundwave & his friends...The same treatment they claimed to be false but the trailer did confirm a LOT of things from this treatment.
    Plus that SUPERION ALREADY EXISTS AS A TOY ONY AS A REPAINT SO WHY WOULD HASBRO REPAINT THE TOY INSTEAD OF ENGINEERING A NEW ONE.
    Get this through your skulls, superion is NOT in the movie.
    yeez!

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  93. WAIT, THE T-REX HAS SCAVENGER ON THE SIDE OF IT. SO IS IT SCAVANGER OR DEMOLISHER????

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  94. I'll post what i want when i want...get over it "Counterpunch"...sorry if my "annoying" posts are getting on your nerves....seeing as how YOU and YOUR posts are always are SO informative, insightful and overall SO vital to this blog....suck it...







    !!PENTAGON!!!

    !!BAYSPLOSIONS!!!

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  95. NightShade872/17/2009 12:17 AM

    :to Counterpunch above at some 20 posts above:

    I don't know whether this is good news or not, but unless Barricade suddenly decided to change his name, he is not the Audi.

    Here's why I think not: http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=11000

    Yep, the Audi is in fact named Sideways. Why he looks like Barricade? No clue.

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  96. Counterpunch2/17/2009 6:44 AM

    Yeah NightShade87.

    I always knew the Audi was not Barricade. That's why I kept saying to those idiots who thinks that the Audi is Barricade.

    Of coz not! 2 different characters altogether.

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  97. Demolishor is NOT part of Devastator and the Constructicons. Check out the "Robot Rundown" at comicbookmovie.com. I repeat, Demolishor is NOT part of Devastator and the Constructicons.

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  98. Why is it that every newer transformer toy i see in the stores are still no where comparable to the old ones, we had the robot/train/plane, and they cant even make devastator robots to transform 3 times like the old ones, come on, everything was better made years ago from now with such the cheap plastic and being that we all of the hasbro transformer fans can't even enjoy the new ones because they are nowhere NEAR the quality that the old ones had, i am very upset of the fact of the devastator vehicles CANNOT change 3 times, i had the originals and they were awesome, it seems we are the ones being screwed

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