Friday, June 27, 2008

Why Princeton Isn't Princeton In TF2

In an article from the NJ Times, it was revealed that as part of the plot for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Sam Witwicky is "enrolled at a fictional East Coast school with an Ivy League feel." The natural next question is why a fictional school when Transformers 2 just finished filming at two distinguished institutions of Princeton and the University of Pennsylvania. It’s a question that UPENN students have also asked and started a public Facebook page on the subject.
Princeton? Really? You HAD to shoot at the University of Pennsylvania and choose to have us 'play' Princeton? Shia couldn't have gone to UPENN? Join this group and ask Michael Bay to CGI the University of Pennsylvania (not Princeton) back into Transformers 2.
The group already has 200 members and amazingly got a response from Bay via "Nelson" who is a webmaster for Bay and been a reliable source of information.
Michael has indicated to me that neither school gave him permission to use their names. There was a very funny “mom” scene were both felt it did not represent the school.
So there you go, now you know why its a fictional school. It seems the school officials have some explaining to do. Considering the movie is probably going to be PG-13 and I am assuming (maybe incorrectly) that Julie White is the Mom is question, then I think its safe to say the scene will probably be hilarious.

If I was a booster for either college I would be very angry at this news for the school official’s essentially pissed away god knows how much free advertisement for their schools. Sure, some people will know the schools where used for the movie but nothing like seeing the schools name on the big screen to get the curiosity and interest of the public. You can't buy that kind of attention. Nor the money and students it could bring in.

To bad Bay didn't choose my alma mater (UGA), they probably would have been okay with it. Besides, honestly I have to agree with the Facebook group, the Sam character is just not an "Ivy League" guy, he is a University guy. Nothing against Princeton but between the two schools, UPENN just “fits” the character better.

Thanks to RiahRiddle for the link.

Update:
From the comments, it turns out the University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy League school. I didn't know that and so far I have not spoken to any one that did (even two people form PA). I don't know but that strikes me as something like that should be common knowledge. So based on that, then Sam doesn't fit at either school because he simply doesn't strike me as Ivy League material based on how he was established in the first film. Sadly a comedy moment was missed as they could have had it so Sam didn't know UPENN was an Ivy League school and had to be corrected by Professor Colon (where Rainn would have had fun with various ways of doing that). Nice thing is the scene would have been funny and told millions and millions of people that UPENN is Ivy League. Oh well, too late now. Now I wonder if UPENN as one of those secret fraternity (or even better a sorority) that the other Ivy Leagues schools are rumored to have.

21 comments:

  1. upenn IS ivy! so i guess you would say that sam doesn't fit either school.

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  2. I went to Lehigh which is right next to Bethlehem Steel plant. I am talking BLOCKS from the plant. How bout some free advertising for that school? It has a better engineering program than either of the two Ivy league dumps in this movie.

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  3. I agree about Sam not being Ivy League material...at all. Wasnt he struggling with his grades in the first movie? His dad didnt even want to buy him a new car! How the hell are they paying for this Ivy League school?! They did it for the comedy, you know Sam is going to be so freakin awkard in this

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  4. Sam fits in at S.H.I.T = South Harmon Institute of Technology, from the movie accepted lol

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  5. Um... UPENN is an Ivy school?

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  6. Um... UPENN is an Ivy school?

    technically no, but many do consider it to be. If they were to induct another school as Ivy league it would be UPENN than.

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  7. Of course UPenn is ivy. What do you mean "technically no"?! Seriously, look it up.

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  8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

    UPENN is listed as an Ivy League school. Are we talking about which one is superior?

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  9. I don't even understand why people think UPenn isn't an ivy school. Ivy League is not some arbitrary title that we give to schools that are supposedly strong. It's just like any other conference out there (Big 10, Big 12, etc), it just so happens that it's made up of a bunch of old and exclusive schools and has the best reputation.

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  10. First off, Lehigh is not that great. Secondly, Sam has the government behind him, he can get into wherever he wants.

    But I agree, under normal circumstances, he would not be getting into Princeton.

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  11. sam wasnt struggling in school he got all A's

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  12. Of course Penn is an Ivy League university, my friends. Don't be an ignorant as*. XD

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  13. Schools should advertise themselves as learning instutitions...not Tranformers. If somebody wants to go to those school becuz of Transformers...that's scary..haha.

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  14. Neither UPenn nor Princeton really need any advertising, especially of this kind. Officials are very careful about the dissemination of their schools' names and images. At the Princeton shoot, a map of the area marked several iconic buildings as off limits.

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  15. I agree. Sam doesn't look seem Ivy League bound. Unless he got super smart from being all touchy with the Allspark for a loooong time. But wasn't he gonna get a B- or something like that in that class on the first movie?

    Oh well...whateverrrr...

    Maybe his dad was just rich enough to pay for and get Sam into the school. I mean, he did have a classic looking convertible.

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  16. The Allspark made him super genius! Even smarter than Einstein!

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  17. Help the save the world and the US government could get Sam in any school he wanted.

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  18. The "mom scene" is probably the scene from the first movie, where she's talking about Sam masturbating. Perhaps a continuation of that scene now that Sam's at college? Like Mom might say "So THIS is where you'll be having special time ... "

    *shrug*

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  19. I don't really care all that much about the whole ordeal... but lemme just say "ARF ARF ARF!" to you for being a UGA dawg!
    That is my intended school, and my older brother goes there... I'm also a major UGA football fan (can you tell?).

    Go Dawgs!
    (or, in Spanish, which will be my major)
    Vayan perros!

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