Wednesday, July 01, 2009
G4's Transformers 2 Debate
I figure some will find the below video interesting (blog reader pointed it out) since Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen seems ignite a lot of passion as it’s either loved or hated. Below is a little debate talking about the merits of the movie from someone that enjoyed it (Todd Gilchrist from Cinematical.com) and hated it (Devin Faraci from chud.com) with Attack of the Show host Kevin Pereira moderating (who also hated it but mostly stays out of it).
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I'm having a hard time listening to the guy who hated it. First of all all his points were way too opinionated-"too long too boring." "couldn't tell what was going on."
ReplyDeleteThe "enjoyed it" man had logical points, "one-up everything. more robots etc."
The only thing I can see being wrong with this movie for a fan is that the story leads in numerous directions when it could have taken a very direct one. Other than that I think Michael Bay delivered exactly what fans wanted-MORE ROBOTS.
As for the racist robots--c'mon it is a toy movie in basic form. And if they are indeed racist, why does it matter??? You can find evidence of racism anywhere, my ceral box for instance.
This is a movie for the summer. Watch it have fun, and if you happen not to have fun PLEASE DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
Why am I not surprised that the Fat Slob wearing the "Star Trek" Shirt did not like the movie, what an ass.
ReplyDeleteMudflap & Skids must have learned their behaviors from the "World Wide Web."
ReplyDeleteI'm getting really tired of all this racist crap. The biggest racist is the one who came up with the idea of the twins being racists. I mean come on, if you expect people to act in a special way just because their color of their skin then you are a racist. The twins are god damn robots?!
ReplyDeleteThat fat hairy dude shouldn't wear a Star Trek shirt and telling us that Transformers is crap.
Im not gonna complain about TF2, because I already did and Im not a hater, however I believe I have the same right to complain as I had it to say great things about the first TF.
ReplyDeleteracist?, last time i checked southerners are not a race...
ReplyDeletealso, ive seen movies with 2000 times more racism, than this movie.
im sorry, but the guy with the star trek shirt didn't give any points what so ever. "stupid", "can't see anything", "bad story", i honestly don't know what people want in movies nowadays
It's funny, Scalan15; the lighter guy "eats" shit and loves it, the so-called "slob" actually thinks twice what he "eats" (views).
ReplyDeleteI saw it at the mid-nite permire and thought it was okay, but i was it again on imax and i loved it!
ReplyDeletedevin feraci is a bit of a douche bag. anyone who has read his chud blog knows that. too bad uwe boll didn't take his fat ass into the ring like he did some internet fanboy critics of his a few years ago. i'd love to see that.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the twins acted like "Cholos" with the words "Hey Vato Loco" and "Hey Holmes" in their vocabulary, would the racist card still be pulled out or would people not care, because its ok to make fun of every other race, but the African American one.
ReplyDeleteBy the way I saw nothing wrong....GREAT MOVIE 9/10
Okay,
ReplyDeleteWhere to begin? Firstly I loved this film. I have my discrepencies with it but over all very much pleased with it.
I really only have 2 major disappointments with this film.
1. Soundwaves time was cut short IMO. I would say my new favorite transformer as far as Asthetics. I was all geeked out when they showed the first shot of him. And my high hopes we get to see him in Robot form in TF3 (god willing).
2. How many constructcons were in this film?!?! I counted 11 if you included the one that gets destroyed in the beginning of the film. WTF?!?! I dont know if anyone else noticed it, But while Devistator is walking around, you also see LongHaul, Mixmaster, Rampage, and the dumptruck (i managed to forget his name). This was something i didn't like at all... I think it was the only thing that actually got me all worked up.
Why were there so many doubles? I am sure it has to do with production reasons, but still com'mon! I dont think that it would have been too hard to make some different enough to have a different color scheme and altered a bit here and there to make it look different.
In closing I feel all of the na-sayers have a point, I just wish they could make one. If you are going to nit-pick a film. Bring up specifics, not like "the middle of the film was boring!" It doesn't help your cause.
Even skate boarders sounds like the twins, heck even some of the Rockers talk like the twins. It's called slang people!! and it is not a racial thing. Now a days if you wan to be cool, you have to learn the street lingual period!!
ReplyDeletei find it interesting that the people on this board claiming that blacks shouldn't see this as racist, seem to not be black....hmmmm....
ReplyDeleteWhy does everyone call the twins racist
ReplyDeleteNews flash
RENO WILSON(Mudflap) IS BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you blackface a black man?
I find it funny how stupid some people are to think that the twins were portrayed to be racist. For one I am black and not every black person talks like that so if anyone takes offense to them then you are not only STUPID but need to get a life. It's entertainment no one mentioned anything about racism or anything so get off your high horses. This movie was great and I enjoyed it. All the idiots reviewing the movie with negative comments are trying to make it as if the movie was suppose to be a Academy Award style film, Well Michael Bay is doing entertainment movies not films that give out awards. To the haters, GET A CLUE FOR REAL!!! If the movie was a flop people still wouldn't be going back to see it over and over again. Remember this how much has it grossed so far in the theaters?? I REST MY CASE!
ReplyDeleteWhat was with the terminator girl on the college campus?!?! At no time, nor in any comic book did the transformers look human !!! And where the hell was barricade ???? I think the movie could have been a little more to the point, and could have portrayed a more plausible plot. Plus Megatron needs to be seen like the bad ass big dick he was in both the comics and cartoon!!! The fight between the fallen and optimus could have been more epic, instead it was totally anticlimatic... The fight between Optimus and megatron, star scream and blackout however was enthralling! Finally, Transformer heaven ??? WTF was that?
ReplyDelete-Phil NJ
After the bashing of this movie didnt worked, haters trying other ways to go against this movie.
ReplyDeleteOk so, i just knew someone would say something about alice, first off, there are indeed transformers that look like people, and yes they do have a transforemers comic and cartoon, or more specific anime, since it was mostly japanese, and not shown in the US, just because you didn't saw them doesn't mean they don't exist, anyways they are called PRETENDERS. So there i hope that answers your question. And BlogMaster, i think that maybe you should post something about that in here, actually check out this link http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Pretenders you will find some info about them in there, and even if you search youtube, you will find some of the episodes. I think the name was Transformers Masterforce or something like that.
ReplyDeleteNow regarding the fight scenes it is not Michael Bay's fault that people are so used to watching the one punch one man down fight which are very lame, i mean come on, this robots regenerate damage like nothing, proof it is starscream reattaching his arm in the top of the building just makes sense that they have to fight each other in a very fast pace, and just keep punching and punching and shooting each other. It takes a huge amount of damage to kill a transformers just like what happened to optimus, i see Transformers kinda like immortals, you got to blow their heads off or really destroy their bodies to kill them. And yes i was able to see and really enjoy and understand the fights from the very first time i saw them, ofcourse the second time around is easier to understand. I guess its kinda like in Dragonball Z that they just move so fast you gotta have some sort of trained eye to follow the action... thank god i train MMA. So, anyways if you still were not able to follow the fight sugest to get it on DVD or Blueray and just watch it in Slow motion.
Oh regards of that Devin guy, well what the hell do you spect from a guy that goes to a talk show wearing a Startrek shirt (anyone say GEEK, or trekee or treker or whatever) I bet that if there would have been a romulan or captain kirk, spok or if they would have used facers and the optimus would have a huge beer belly and... talk ... like .....this.... he would have loved it.
In Regards of the Twins I Kinda asociated them more with redneck hillbillys than anything else. but well, those are just my two cents
I'm not surprised that the Fat Slob wearing the "Star Trek" Shirt did not like the movie. The shirt saids it all!
ReplyDeleteMy goodness, can you get anymore fanboy-nerd-in-mom's-basement looking than these two?
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