Tuesday, February 03, 2009

Phone Survey Reveals Transformers 2 Plot?

Movie studios often like to poll people about their movies using focus groups, sneak peeks and the like so they can tweak their movies in an attempt to grab the largest audience possible. Apparently this can also use phone surveys where the questions can reveal hints about the movie they are calling about as "Compy" reports below regarding Transformers 2 which confirms many of our guesses on what the plot is about. As usual my comments are on parenthesis.
The plot of TF2:ROTF was told to me recently during a phone survey about upcoming movies.

First off, I love the blog. I usually just look at the photos since I would hate to stumble across spoilers. I hate spoilers. Unfortunately I was told the entire plot of the movie recently when I agreed to take part in a phone survey on upcoming movies. The survey was a week or so ago and I was also asked about the new Terminator movie, Night at the Museum 2 and another Ice Age movie. The survey person asked how likely I was to see these upcoming films, then they played an audio clip that outlined the plot, and then asked if my opinion changed. When they mentioned "TF2: ROTF" I stayed on the line. I wish I hadn't and I'm trying to block the memory.

Here's what I was told:
- Sam and his family attempt to return to a normal life (why parents visiting Paris)
- Sam is in college (see the filming around Princeton)
- Starscream returns to Cybertron to lead the Decepticons (read comic Reign of Starscream or plot summary here)
- He brings an army of Decepticons to Earth (ditto)
- They revive Megatron using a fragment of the All Spark (on going theory, fragment in film confirmed back in September)
- Megatron seeks revenge against Sam, his friends, and family (wouldn't you if they helped kill you?)
- Starscream and the other Decepticons seek to not only take over Earth, but the entire universe
- Optimus Prime assembles an Autobot army to battle to keep the universe free

So there you have it. The Fallen IS Megatron. The revenge is against Sam. Pretty basic.

Thanks,
Compy

141 comments:

  1. Common sense, that the Fallen was the defeated decepticons. knew it from the start. Woot!

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  2. Who is the fuckin' freaky guy from the teaser poster ?

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  3. No shit i knew it too as soon as they announced the name cuz Fallen is another word for defeated and the decepticons where defeated and they want revenge duh!

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  4. the thing on the poster is jut the origin of the Decepticon symbol thats all it is a big decepticon symbol

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  5. well we REAL transfans knew that already but what these newbies think is that what ever michael bay says is true when he in fact said he was gonna put out alot of false info. ALOT of speculation is ruining the truth

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  6. Interesting, but not too surprising. The plot given here pretty much fits one of the leading theories out there.

    As for the character in the poster, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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  7. Too funny! As much as it would have been to much to think that the Fallen was a seperate character to itself, this fits more what we've been saying for months!

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  8. the charater in the poster is a decepticon symbol only robotic prolly the first decepticon there might be a backstory or flashback in the movie of decepticon history

    poster
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/17293024@N06/3202391841/sizes/o/

    decepticon symbol
    http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-logo.jpg
    similar ?

    fully colored poster..

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/30157525@N04/3185705375/sizes/o/
    you can actually see the outline of the symbol

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  9. I have a feeling we will still see the fallen

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  10. We still have the pyramids and desert scenes featuring Sam , Simmons & co. The Fallen is the guy in the pyramid is the guy on the poster.

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  11. Megatron being the fallen makes sense.

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  12. anybody could have posted the above with information we already had.

    i don't think its legit.

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  13. I THOUGHT THIS THE SECOND I LEFT THE THEATRE AT THE END OF THE FIRST ONE THIS IS HOW THE SECOND WILL PLAY OUT...I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

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  14. In the trailer there is a moment where sam is pinned down by a giant clawed hand, that hand is definitely not Starscream's and resembles very much Megatron's hand design from the previous movie...make up your own mind but I am also inclined to believe megatron is coming back.

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  15. #1 why would Startscream want to revive Megatron? If his character is supposed to be for G1ish then that is not happening, Startscream does bring his own army, but Soundwave is the one that will revive Megatron, and they are the ones that will try to find the Fallen, or maybe Starscream will and Megatron might work with the autobots.

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  16. maybe however the back of the toy packaging mentions Starscream hoping to one day revive Megatron so maybe he starts off loyal to megatron but after his taste of true power is reluctant to give it up again, would make more sense that way.

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  17. "or maybe Starscream will and Megatron might work with the autobots."

    Oh, yeah, that really showed up in the teaser, like you know, Sam getting stabbed by Megatron, Opimus loosing his face, everybody's just getting along nicely. Can't wait.

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  18. Hmmm i believe this to a degree. However.

    1. Who is dude on poster ? I personally think jetfire because of the way the shoulders and head look connected.

    2. Whats the deal with that artifact in Defiance?

    3. The writers have described the film as tackling the mythology of the Transformers universe.

    4. Whats with the pyramid scenes and sam 'knowing' something due to his contact with the allspark.

    But what does it matter? As long as Optimus dies and Wheelimus Prime becomes leader of the autobots right?

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  19. So Bay is lying, but some random guy on the internet is telling the truth...RIIIIIIIIGHT. Not saying that this isn't possible, but it's hard for me to believe THIS guy.

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  20. How exactly does Starscream arrive in Cybertron? He's a jet, how can he get through the atmosphere.

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  21. he's now normal jet he's a transformer did you see the first transformers in the credits he goes back into space

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  22. As others already pointed out... the whole Egypt scenario, the pyramids... the character of the Fallen will be used as a way to introduce the general public to the legacy of Unicron. Transformers3 main plot it's highly likely to be based on the arrival of Unicron. This second movie will give the general public an idea of the myth of Unicron thru the Fallen that the Decepticons will locate thanks to Sam visions and info he got from the Allspark that is flowing into his own mind...

    Actually Bay is playing with us.. Megatron it's different from the first movie so he might still be called Galvatron.. OR he gets revived as Megatron.. he gets killed during this second movie.. maybe Optimus Prime will sacrifice himself to kill him BUT that won't stop Decepticons nor Devastator... the second part of the movie then could be about the Decepticons finding the Fallen in Egypt and using him to bring back Megatron once again...
    That could be what will happen.. we know that this movie is going to be a bit longer than the first, we know that the Egypt scenes are the last part of the movie, we know that Devastator will appear twice.. once in a city and once in Egypt... and we know that the movie will open with an all out war, at least rumors and spoilers told all of this so far.

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  23. what you have to remember is that the writers (who are both g1 fanboys) are trying to keep alot of the original elements to these new stories. if you look back over the g1 cartoons in the first 5 series there are plotlines like prime being killed by megatron, prime coming back, megatron being killed by starscream, megatron being revived by unicron coming back as galvatron and then killing starscream ect...... and also the decepticons and the autobots joining forces to kill an enemy.
    My point is this, with the writers being such fanboys i reckon they could have slotted in any one of those old plot lines or more......or none.
    Assume nothing, cause i still reckon it's going to blow our faces off.

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  24. idk i still think the fallen is going to come into play at some point. though who knows.

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  25. bay f... it again why not tidlewave or real sized scorpinoq or devastator full size pwn as and lose the the hot rod design on prime ..bring back the omegasupreme help optimus.and the u got the touch please bay sucks at robot idea's american's ha.cant make a good movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  26. First off we dont know SHIT!!!!! all we " KNOW " is a bunch of rumors that people are saying is fact.... They have to have a reason to go to the pyramids they dont just go there for no reason at all.... And I'm betting it's something that not one of us knows jackshit about!!!!

    Megatron Dieing and then coming back AGAIN! is a serious stretch...

    I called this dude on some bullshit and I'm calling it again... Why in the FUCK!!! would Bay try to keep everything under wraps for two long years and then give away the plot on a fuckinig phone survey? To all the people that say they " know " this and " know " that need to wake the fuck up cause seriously that shit is getting a little old...

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  27. So I can't wait to see how they get the fragment back from Optimus...

    But if this is true, why would Starscream, who is supposedly more true to his G1 character in this film, bringing Megatron back? How the hell would he lead the Decepticons if his only superior was back in working order and kicking ass again?

    Or maybe Starscream made Megatron a tank so that he wouldn't be as much of a threat as a powerful decepticon that can fly??? Hm...

    I'd like to know other people's thoughts on this.

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  28. its hillarious how u asses keep insisting "the fallen" is in this. u disagree with the guy that posted it just because u want the ludicrous concept of unicron introduced. the teaser poster is just like the teaser poster for the first one, a stylized symbol, and could also just b jetfire. the supposed plot detailed above sounds sensible and perfect following what happened in the first movie, get over it already. the comics are not movie canon, so stop bringing up what happened in "defiance", "alliance" or whatever. theyre like all the star wars novels that were written btween the movies, not canon..the writers dont acknowlege them, in fact orci never heard of the comics or the events in them when asked a direct question about them. ..all us g-1 fans are happy with this plot summary and we cant wait to see the full trailer on the 13th

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  29. "How exactly does Starscream arrive in Cybertron? He's a jet, how can he get through the atmosphere."

    1 its a movie
    2 he could have reverted back to his protoform

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  30. Phone Survey reveals Compy is a F'in D-bag...

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  31. but w/o speculation this wouldnt be a blog now would it??? I guess im wrong in my previous input i guess this is whats gonna keep real transfans laughin til the damn movie come out...keep it up

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  32. Isn't there going to be a Fallen toy?

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  33. "Phone Survey reveals Compy is a F'in D-bag..."

    LOL

    seriously you guys would call bullshit on michael bay if he was sitting right in front of you, but when someone posts a PHONE SURVEY everyone is all "I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!!!!"

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  34. Heh....phone survey. Did it just randomly call this guy's cell phone? Everything posted here can be speculated from already known rumors and news. I think the studio uses the boards and not phone surveys to get fan reactions. IF and I say IF this stuff is true, I think it only scratches the surface of the overall plot of the movie. Bay himself said he was going to hold back big time on the teaser trailer so that we go into the movie with more surprise. I dunno, it just sounds fishy. If Megatron is revived, of course he's gonna seek revenge. But why title the movie the way it's titled unless it has deeper meaning. I guess we'll see in June.

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  35. Id have a hard time believing such a critical character in the transformers line is
    #1 gone for good
    #2 changed into Galvatron so quickly in the series.

    Megatron played such a small roll in the 1st movie that I would think he would be coming back, but maybe later in the second movie. I really hope for the scope of the franchise, that we do see more into the history of the transformers. otherwise, these movies will start to feel like nothing more than episodes that you have to wait 2-3 years for.

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  36. If this is true, then why Egypt is so damn important. I think there is more to this. This survey might be true, but there are other things doesn't make sense to me. Like the Pretender and all Egyptian symbols in the poster because that is clearly not Megatron. I think The Fallen will be in the movie.

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  37. I don't believe this guy. I do believe Megatron is coming back, but beyond that I don't think it's completely possible to determine the whole plot four and a half months before the actual film.

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  38. the poster doesnt nesseseraly mean anything, the poster for the first movie didnt

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  39. I don't see why no one really thinks that the survey plot AND the character The Fallen can't both be true. If they were doing a phone survey about The Sixth Sense, they're not going to straight up say on the phone that Bruce Willis is dead through the whole thing! They'll just give a brief synopsis of the part that they want you to see because they're assuming that some yahoo that they call is going to run to the first blog and yak about it.
    The character on the poster is not Jetfire - at least not based on his toy mold. That we know. It's also not any head that we've seen before. It could be the head that the Decepticon symbol is based on, but why would they just randomly put that on the poster unless there's going to bring up the history of the Decepticons somewhere in the movie - which as any good TF fan knows - involves The Fallen.
    He may just be a flashback. He may be found in the pyramids as a 'dead' body - setting up the third movie. He may be full on kicking ass in this one. NOBODY KNOWS except people working on the flick and none of them are talking anytime soon.

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  40. guys remember how michael bay always leaks false info on the net? i bet you that this isnt true. they wouldnt waste money on a teaser poster with a transformer looking like that.

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  41. Lorenzo di Bonaventura explained the film will show the Transformers who visited Egypt before the pyramids were built, and "all our heroes end up here because of the Decepticons' masterplan." Furthermore, Egyptian hieroglyphs resembling helicopters and other present day vehicles in real life will be explained in the film as being depictions of those Ancient Cybertronians who visited Earth.

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  42. what a gay plot, still gonna be awsome on just about everything else and probably no ones gonna care about the plot but its sooo basic, anyone could have thought of that yet the writers are getting paid millions

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  43. I kinda figured this is how the plot would be.

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  44. man i hella wanted to see The Fallen in the movie. He wouldve been sick..

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  45. i think theres two ways we can figure out if this is true or not. first is to see if Dreamworks will pull this post out or we wait till the movie.

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  46. Ok, so the "fallen" is Megatron. That's cool. Makes sense, the evil "empire strikes back" sequel concept.

    The dude on the poster is Jetfire... a character who is also, at least initially, a "fallen" good guy. Jetfire comes to his senses at the end of the movie, helps Optimus and the Autobots stop Megatron, the Decepticons, and Devastator. Fade to black. The End.

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  47. Well it all goes back to the allspark... Do we all think that the cube just randomly fell out of the sky on to earth? Or was someone with it when it happened.. If I remember correctly in the first movie they said carbon dating put the Allspark here long before Megatron came along and my thought is that someone was with the allspark and that it didnt just randomly land here.... Who that may be is yet to be known....

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  48. I'm of the opinion that Megatron is coming back and The Fallen is in the movie.

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  49. And no I def don't think it's Jetfire b/c how in the hell could he be a SR-71 Blackbird and be anywhere near as old as the allspark is... Jetfire being the fallen just does'nt make sense to me....

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  50. The story line could be as simple as the Fallen being Megatron and he inacts his revenge on Sam but there's one missing piece here...remember the scene in Egypt that revealed some mysteries about Transformers being on Earth before...we can't forget that little piece of storyline. Its still obvious that some mystical aspect of the franchise will be explored here.

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  51. When they revive Magatron they just dont use magatron dead body but parts from the other fallen Decepticon's.

    Maybe the all spark piece only give magatron a limited power for current amount of time and maybe killing sam isnt just the only thing magatron is after for. Sam might've absorb some power from the all park.( seen pics of him on set with cybertron symbols on his arms).

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  52. There is alot more to it then just Megatron comes back and wants revenge against sam..... Human's disgust Megatron I don't think he comes back to get revenge on just sam but the human race as a whole and to do that then there has to be more to the plot then what we have heard or seen....

    And I don't see how that could'nt be Megatron pinning same down in the trailer...

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  53. wait ok if they do revive megatron then were the hell do they get a new body? and how would they get him back? just put that allspark fragment on a random object?

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  54. Damn I feel sorry for sam,

    and another thing, ive noticed GEEWUNers are basically the EMO's of transformers

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  55. I think that Soundwave is going to sound alot like the background music in the teaser trailer...If that makes sense to everyone

    I think Bay put the Sam and Starscream scene in the trailer to keep people from thinking Megatron is in the movie... To make it seem like it was Starscream pinning Sam down and not Megatron...

    I think Starscream is trying to get information about something Sam knows in that scene... Whether Megatron comes along and takes shit over while this is happening I don't know.....

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  56. thats deffinately megs pinning sam down. you can see the tank track leg beside him

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  57. If they revive Megatron then it might take a while b/c if yall remember Lennox and Epps discover that the metal they are made of also holds molecules to regenerate so in short the metal they are made of is like a skin that grows back... They may not need the allspark b/c the sparks in all of the Transformers rather they be Autobot or Decepticon all came from one place and that place is the Allspark so in short they would'nt need the Allspark just the spark in their chest.....

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  58. hurry up with a new post already this ones getting old like cheese

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  59. What if this is just more misinformation released by Michael Bay?

    Seems way too simple.

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  60. Here's my take...

    Sam and his family try getting on with their lives, Starscream recruits an army, Optimus does the same, yadda yadda yadda. Megatron gets resurrected and goes after Sam and his loved ones while at the same time revives the Fallen for whatever reason. The Fallen is such an evil Motherfucker he tells the 'bots and the 'cons to go cornhole themselves and does whatever fiendish thing it is he does. The autobots and decepticons team up to take him out,X Men 2 style, and a hint for transformers 3 is dropped (Unicron?)

    It's all kind of a semi-educated, over simplified guess at this point, but that's what I think will go down.

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  61. " If I had a rock I'd bust your head bitch..."

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  62. and the saga continues...we now return to the transformers

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  63. Are we still having this ridiculous debate? How can someone derive that Megatron is the Fallen because he's seeking revenge on Sam? The person posting this is acting as if that statement said "Megatron is the fallen and there is no other character by that name." That's not what he says. It says he was resurrected and wants revenge. Well sure if he's in the movie he's going to want revenge. What do you expect if he's revived? Go ask Sam to borrow a cup of energon? Fuck no. I know FOR 100% FACT the Fallen is a character in this movie. He's right on the fucking poster. Some say the robot on the poster is Jetfire. Are you serious? Does Jetfire have long ears and a long snout? No. Furthermore there is another poster coming out next month with Jetfire on it and one with Prime on it. I'm just really sick of hearing people "confirming" Megatron is the Fallen when it's complete and utter bullshit. Megatron is in the film. The Fallen is in the film. Two separate characters. Period.

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  64. cypherXR

    1 calm the fuck down
    2 wash your balls
    3 talk sense using logic

    and you might just find a girlfreind

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  65. lol cypher got pwned

    period

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  66. the pic on the poster isnt a character just like for the first movie

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  67. To say that the "history" of the decepticons is something "any good TF fan knows involves the fallen" is simply the most rediculous thing I've ever read. The "fallen" appeared in an obscure comic that has nothing to do with gen 1.... as much as u would like to think that thew writers would start kissing ur geek asses, think again. .. I'm sure bay and orci are laughing their asses off that this debate is continuing even after the teaser trailer...the poster is just a poster, just like the teaser poster for the first one was nothing, but the debate raged for months, "who is it?" "Its prime!!" "Its megatron!!" Guess what, it was no one. It was just the autobot symbol zoomed in with an eye. The plot supposed in this thread makes sense and soundas like an awesome movie...throw in jetfire, an ancient decepticon that joins the autobots to help defeat megatron...sounds like a blockbuster.

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  68. Cypher needed to get pwned, amen. People are going to believe what they want to believe. But common sense says that megatron and the decepticons are the fallen, the defeated side, and sam is the one directly responsible for megatrons deactivation. So he wants to take revenge on sam and the autobots. ..duhhh...

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  69. if starscream is leading the decepticons then y is he helping them revive megatron? Dont they hate each other? or did i miss something?

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  70. The thing in the teaser poster is the same as in the 1st movie the first movie just shows a close up of a robotics autobot symbol
    http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/transformers-teaser-l.jpg
    because the autobots come to earth to save it
    in revenge of the fallen its a robotic desepticon symbol
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/17293024@N06/3203241706/sizes/o/

    for the first transformers there was also a decepticon poster the same as the autobot one only its a close up of a decepticon symbol
    http://www.bigbot.info/gallery/albums/ebay-auctions-3/tf_teaserd2.jpg

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  71. BEING A G1 80'S BABY TF FANBOY, I HAVE TO SAY THIS...YOU CANT HAVE TRANSFORMERS WITHOUT MEGATRON. PLAIN AND SIMPLE HE IS HALF OF THE FRANCHISE. JUST AS DARTH VADER IS TO STAR WARS, COBRA IS TO G.I. JOE, AND MAGNETO IS TO X-MEN. BAY MIGHT BE A CRAZY BUT HE'S NOT STUPID.

    ALSO I BELEIVE I READ THAT JETFIRE WAS OLD AND TIRED, AND USED SOME KIND OF CRUTCH, MAYBE HE IS ONE OF THE FIRST TRANSFORMERS TO VISIT EARTH.

    I ALSO BELIEVE THAT STARSCREAM WILL HAVE HIS OWN FACTION OF DECEPTICONS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN THE OTHERS. SOUNDWAVE IS THE MEGATRON LOYALIST AND WILL HAVE HIS FACTION OF BOTS THAT REVIVE MEGATRON IN AN ATTEMPT TO STOP STARSCREAM.

    THE FALLEN CHARACTER IS AN IDEA THAT CAN GO EITHER WAY IM NOT SURE IF THATS HIM ON THE POSTER OR WHO IT IS AT ALL.

    AND DEVESTATOR DEFINATELY IS GOING TO BE IN THIS, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE HUGE WHEEL, THAT DECEPTICON IS NOT THAT TALL JUST REALLY WIDE I BELIEVE THE WHEEL PORTION WILL BE REPLACED BY OTHER CONSTRUTICON COMPONENTS AN HE WILL BE ONLY SLIGHTLY TALLER. STILL A BAD ASS MOVIE CAN A GET A AMEN???

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  72. I agree with you but stop shouting

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  73. thats my loud crooked pastor voice.. LLLLLORD HAVE MERCY!! (church organ plays)

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  74. if that is the real plot then htis movie just gonna suck, it will the same thing as the first one but w/ more action, personally i like the concept of the fallen as a separate character

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  75. i still fully believe that THE FALLEN is an actual character in the movie. When you go to the official tansformers movie site, the poster image is kinda animated and the eyes from whatever character (i believe the fallen) is on the poster are made to look like they are fire, there is like reddish smoke emitting from the eyes, isnt the fallen on fire?. it also explains the whole pharoah look and the fact that the movie ends up in egypt at the end for the climax.

    i think people are just thinking too far outside the box when the OFFICIAL movie poster pretty much gives it away. I fully believe that megatron comes back (cuz you pretty much see it in the trailer) and the fallen is the original evil transformer (cuz you pretty much see it on the poster).

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  76. Well I'm the one that submitted this information. What the admin here posted is what I experienced on a phone survey. I received this call in the evening on my home phone. As mentioned the survey company covered a number of movies, not just TF2. In fact, TF2 was one of the last movies they asked my opinion on. All questions were "On a scale of 1 to 5" type questions. And all the movies they asked me about were sequels to popular films.

    Sure there's debate here. And sure there's doubt. Could they have thrown in an 'alternate' plot? I doubt it since the focus of this survey wasn't JUST on TF2, but on a number of upcoming films. Also I would think this company was completely independent of Bay; probably a marketing company.

    One thing to remember, the recorded audio clip they played me was only like 30 seconds to a minute long. There are usually multiple sub-plots in major films (Sam and Mikala's romance, for example), couldn't many of things mentioned above (egypt, PosterBot, etc) be SUB-PLOTS of what they covered with me? I mean how Megatron crash landed on Earth was a sub-plot and that was covered in like 5 minutes in the first film.

    As far as me being a lurker/hoax/Bay plant, that has me seriously amused. I'm just a 35 year old guy who took part in a survey. I live in Cleveland Heights Ohio and I work for a large auto nsurance company based here. I sent the email to the blog admin from my work address, so he can verify (if he feels the need to) my identity. I have no wishes for some kind weird blog-celebrity-greatness, I just took part in a survey and thought the people here would like to know what they covered.

    I also know it's pretty easy to call someone a douchebag when you're posting anonymously.

    I can't wait for June 26!

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  77. Comfy is legit from what I can tell and honestly what is the point of lying? The spoilers fit the very broad strokes of what we thought the story was going to be about. Besides, the details are what makes a movie and in that regard we are still missing a chunk of information.

    At the end of the day, we are all guessing and throwing out theories, all as valid as the next, until we finally get to see the movie and do an "I told you so" dance. I suspect though very every bit someone gets right there will be about five bits that were not.

    Without the help and tips such as this that I have recieved for the blog we wouldn't have even a quarter of the information, images, and speculation fun that we have now.

    - TFLive

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  78. Selective Realism2/03/2009 11:52 PM

    Small world. Im from Cleveland Heights too.

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  79. Thunda Chunky2/03/2009 11:58 PM

    Here here! I don't doubt you Compy. Oh and to the guy that made the reference to Bernie Mac from the first film (If I had a rock, I'd bust yo head bitch!) thank you. I LOLed at that, then cried a little bit cause Bernie's gone (RIP). It gave me another reason to watch my dvd of the first movie. Like I really needed another reason.

    The second movie is just going to kick the ass of whatever other movies are unlucky enough to land on that same weekend. The Fallen could be a separate character. OR 'the fallen' could be a metaphor for the defeated Decepitcons. That's the beauty of movies and movie marketing. All of the buzz and speculation only drives interest in the movie sky high. A word of advice to Michael Bay, start counting the money now. Go head Mike, it's okay. Tell you what Bay, here's $30. That's the cash for the 3 tickets I'll be buying myself on June 26, 27, and 28.

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  80. iwasherenotyou2/04/2009 12:08 AM

    im saying that megatron comes back and brings the fallen back so he can like kill the autobots but the fallen be like screw you decepticons ima kill yall. hopefully that happens.

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  81. I believe Compy. There's no way a liar would admit to living in Cleveland Heights

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  82. Selective Realism2/04/2009 12:45 AM

    "I believe Compy. There's no way a liar would admit to living in Cleveland Heights"

    So says the guy who purposefully calls himself "snortpocket."

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  83. I don't think you guys should start locking in the Fallen as Megatron, given the evidence presented by IDW Publishing. Why is that mysterious face on the packaging of toys, the covers of the comic, the first teaser poster and is part of prequel comic plot?


    I should point out that Starscream doesn't actually lead any army back to Earth in The Reign of Starscream. He wasn't even interested in Earth until part of his army attempted a coup and he went after the coup leader.

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  84. well the autobots will work with the government now. megatron is going to be revived by scroponix who will use his own spark to revive him . Starsceam is going to bring back a Deception army, and Optimus will also call a army. We know that Devastator will make a appearance and then the autobots will need more help then what they have. Either way it is going to be one hell of a movie. Sam starts to see visions like his Great great grandpa did before he went crazy, and it is these visions that the decepticons want... that is why they will be after him. That is all I got.

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  85. I believe you Cypher

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  86. yankeesrule is a plant; all his words are lies

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  87. So says the guy who purposefully calls himself "snortpocket."

    why don't you go live in cleveland heights about it

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  88. If the Fallen won't appear in movie, who is that transformer in poster? It looks nearly like Soundwave, but it's not him and I'm definitely sure that it isn't Jetfire.

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  89. That Compy dude is bullshitting. I 100% guarantee it. With how tight Bay's been keeping this movie, there's NO WAY he would release the plot through a telemarketing agency. Give me a bleepin' break. It's embarrassing the number of people who fell for it.

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  90. Alright mr Slushie Man. Maybe that article is just a fake.

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  91. Scopinok is NOT going to revive megatron, that was only in the fake script which even included ultramagnus and hotrod,

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  92. ALLLLLL I CAN SAYYY..
    FAKEEE who would believe thiss,, obviously not me. ppl don't get ur hopez crashed about the fallennn besides cumm on as if a random guy did a survey about T ROTF.. probably a prank.... this guys is so full of it my opinionnn

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  93. hey guys tomorow TF08 will have a pic of a new deveticon flyr....maybe starscream or one of his pals...juz stay updated

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=199


    p.s.i have a filling this guy will be badass...he loks lyk he has claws or sumething

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  94. Counterpunch2/04/2009 5:00 AM

    @ adam

    yeah nice pix... well it could be one of Starscream's Seekers... Skywarp or Thundercracker.

    Starscream will have his army, remember? just read the Alliance comics where he has gone to the Nemesis to revive the static Decepticons.

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  95. just a thought: there seems to be way too many "main" villains in this movie: like the fallen, megatron, and they said jetfire will be also an important character and there is also devastator... i wonder how the autobots will deal with this...

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  96. This is all so funny..!
    Me i'm just gonna sit back and wait it out..

    Things already look freakin' AWESOME so begin to think how things are gonna look ones the movie comes out..!

    Just can't wait..!
    THANK YOU MICHAEL BAY..!

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  97. '1. Who is dude on poster ? I personally think jetfire because of the way the shoulders and head look connected.'

    I think Devastator. The power shovel toy has a visible socket on at least one of the wheels when it's in wheelbot mode; that bot looks like it would form Devastator's shoulders and upper arms, which would make the treads / wheels the area around his neck. Since word is Devastator will have an ape-like stance, he'd be hunched forward, so you'd see the excavator's treads behind his head in a straight-on view of him.

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  98. Hi guys,

    One thing i am 100% sure of is that it's not starscream who brings the decepticon army to earth.
    It's soundwave who sends a couple of decepticons to earth (to support starscream) while he stays on mars waiting for the right time to reveal himself.
    Read Alliance part 2

    Cheers :-)

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  99. hi I was viewing my pictures of transformers 2 and the i saw the constructicon "Long Haul" and i would like to know if it gonna make an appearance or was it just a rumour..

    PS:" All Hail the Autobots.."

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  100. not sure yet
    wait and see, in a few weeks or so, more leaks are coming in

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  101. Hi guys,

    One thing i am 100% sure of is that it's not starscream who brings the decepticon army to earth.
    It's soundwave who sends a couple of decepticons to earth (to support starscream) while he stays on mars waiting for the right time to reveal himself.
    Read Alliance part 2

    Cheers :-)


    You know, that those couple Cons that Soundwave have summoned in Alliance #2 are just toy repaints from other series (Classics, Cybertron), and ther is no way, that they will be in the movie?

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  102. the one in the poster is jetfire....i think,

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  103. Michael Bay admitted that the Fallen was in this movie. Describing his as "apocalyptic".

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  104. http://www.blurred-edge.com/tfrotf/rotfposter.jpg
    http://www.blurred-edge.com/tfrotf/tfpic26.jpg

    Here are the enhanced movie poster and the pic of the legends Jetfire toy. Even though there is not great detail on the toy, it's blatantly fucking obvious that they're two different faces. The poster is probably just a random evil face like the TF1 teaser was. Or maybe it is The Fallen, which probably is the origin of the Decepticon symbol.

    There's no reason Compy would lie and you guys are idiots if you think he's a "Bay Plant". What he said the survey told him is like the most broadstroked plot and it barely reveals anything. So much more will happen beyond the obvious.

    And, hey, douchebag! To say that The Fallen isn't part of the Decepticon history is idiotic because as Orci said himself, they pulled aspects from all the different gens, comics included, to create the movie universe. You GEEWUNers just think that's the end-all-be-all of TF canon and you're idiots. The very fact that the only two TF1 characters to actually have an alt-mode that matched their G1 is Prime and Starscream throws shit in your face right there!

    As usual, nobody will know a damn thing until the movie opens.

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  105. The poster is Jazz. He is out for revenge of his falllen. He is now a Decepticon because he made a deal with The Fallen to get revenge on the fallen Megatron. But before that happens, Megatron has to kick Primes ass to, so then Prime will also be the fallen. Then He will have to come back to life, and so on, and so on , and so on...

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  106. i hate myself bacause i read this.

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  107. 12:09 post....As usual, nobody will know a damn thing until the movie opens.

    Well we all know one thing...Your are def a penis wrinkle....

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  108. I think Megatrons in it and he's all like "Hey!" And Starscream walks in and he's al like "What?" and Primes like "huh1" and The Fallens all like " Don't even look at me I aint in this film" and Bumblebee like "What?"

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  109. First of all to you fuckwad anons, oh yes you really "pwned" me with your little lame three point list didn't you? Grow up. I'm talking sense with facts that I know, not logic. If you want to play the logic card, then wouldn't it be logical to say the robot on the poster is the Fallen? Or just say "Yeah, let's just put some random fucking robot on the main poster for no reason at all." That sure makes much more sense.

    Secondly, I'm not getting upset or calling Compy a liar about anything. I think he did take the survey. All I'm saying is that he's gathering that Megatron is the "fallen" just for him wanting to take revenge on Sam. Of course that seems logical enough, however you can't say that the one ambiguous statement confirms anything. That's what I'm arguing here based on the facts I know from having seen the poster with the ID tag describing the Fallen character on it.

    Oh, by the way. I have a girlfriend, thanks. :)

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  110. the constructicon has a name !!!
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280309914636

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  111. Scavenger is name? I knew it! Scavenger was in Transformers G1 leader of the Constructicons. Of course he is Constructicon leader in this movie too.

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  112. the constructicon has a name !!!
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280309914636


    Did you even bother to read product description? If not, here, let me show you what they say in there:


    SCAVENGER? (we are not positive of the name)

    So no, we don't have a name confirmation.

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  113. Not yet, but how many excavator transforming Decepticons you know? I know only Scavenger and Steamhammer, who was Constructicon leader in Transformers: Energon.

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  114. And Steamhammer it could be only in your dreams.

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  115. Scrapper was excavator in Transformers: Animated, but definitely not in this continuity.

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  116. Not yet, but how many excavator transforming Decepticons you know? I know only Scavenger and Steamhammer, who was Constructicon leader in Transformers: Energon.

    If you are so sure of yourself, why do you need confirmation from some dude on ebay, who is not even sure himself?

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  117. Hey, ROTF toys are not yet in stores. And can that toy be got in its present owner's hands without he knows its name? He might really know name of that Constructicon. If you have a prouf that Scavenger isn't that Constructicon, I would be very excited about getting final confirmation of name of even one Constructicon.

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  118. I can wait until I see movie that what is plot. Only things I want to know are names, robot modes, vehicle modes and sides of all transformers appearing in movie. I know now Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, Arcee (1 of 3 female Autobots), Jetfire, Sideswipe, Skids, Mudflap(not yet confirmed as Skids's twin brothers name), Jolt, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, Barricade, Scopronok, Audi R8 (name not yet revealed), RH400 excavator (Scavenger, I think), 6 other unkonwn Constructicons, ice cream truck (Decepticon symbol revealed that it's a Decepticon alternate mode) and the Fallen.

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  119. Now when you know, why I need to know those names, why don't you just prove that RH400 excavator isn't Scavenger or keep quiet until truth is revealed?

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  120. Hey, ROTF toys are not yet in stores. And can that toy be got in its present owner's hands without he knows its name? He might really know name of that Constructicon. If you have a prouf that Scavenger isn't that Constructicon, I would be very excited about getting final confirmation of name of even one Constructicon.

    He himself (dude from ebay) says, that HE IS NOT SURE of this name, so how can you say, that he knows his name? Geez, people, think for a minute...

    Now when you know, why I need to know those names, why don't you just prove that RH400 excavator isn't Scavenger or keep quiet until truth is revealed?

    And why don't you prove me, that his name is Scavenger smartass, or keep quiet until truth is revealed?

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  121. Now when you know, why I need to know those names (...)

    And no, i still don't know why you need to know those names.

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  122. well its hard to saY IF MEGATRONS THE FALEN OR THE FALLENS THE FALLEN I MEAN THERE WAS NO NOTHING ON THE FALLEN IN THE TRAILER JUST THE DECEPTICONS BEATING THE AUTOBOTS. BUT THERE WERE PICTURES OF A NEW ROBOT ON A PAPER AND ON ALL THE TF2 TOYS SO THERE PROPABLY IS A FALLEN AND MEGATRONS PROPABLY COMING BACK. YEAH MEGATRONS PROPABLY PISSED THAT HE GOT KILLED BY A HUMAN AND THATS WHY HES GOING AFTER SAM AND HIS LOVED ONES

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  123. well i think the toys svavenger from the simialar vehicle mode from the G1 series but it could be another decepticon thats just my opinion

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  124. ^^ Dude... Caps Lock is a bad thing. Realy BAD. Remember that, before you write another post...

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  125. u guys do know where skyfire came from wasnt it a mayan temple in the g1 cartoons.so maybe this is where skyfire comes in these movie from egypt....

    and this is why there isnt any dinobots or omega supremem bcoz if they had them then the movie will be more like attack of the clones.they wanted to make it evil from the start to finish...

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  126. So if this is true, what does Egypt have to do with it? Why would the movie choose a picture of some unknown for the poster? Just because? And nothing else is even important to the plot, such as Sam seeing the hieroglyphs in his eyes? I think that this plot summery has too many loose ends to be called believable. I do believe Megatron will be back, and I also believe that the actual Fallen will be i the movie as well. I have no ideas as to the plot beyond that.

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  127. its funny how all u fallen fanatics that call people names for saying the fallewn is not in this movie post anonymously. the "fallen" is not in this movie..go read your obscure comic that featured him. cry your eyes out and grab your blowup doll and your cheetos and maybe u will feel bettr....the poster is not the fallen, it may b jetfire, but a previous post made an interesting point that it may b devestator....orci and the writers are g1 fans btw....the movie will b g1 influenced, thanks for writing douchebag anonymously pusssy

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  128. Spoiler warning!

    This is going to be crap!

    If they are not having the fallen the micheal bay and shia both lied about a charecter called the fallen who they said was going to be Apocalyptic.

    It also doesnt make any sense with the comic covers as in more than one cover megatron is kneeling down and looking at the face (The one on the poster)

    Also it confirms my worst fears that they would really ruin the film by having starscream resurect megatron here is the true plot they should have instead:

    Here's what i think should be the plot:

    -The film opens in china as the arcee bots chase down a rogue decepticon (Barricade)
    -Sam is in collage and his parents are on holiday
    -Meanwhile he starts experiencing problems he believes are related to the allspark (Such as reading a 1000 page book in 10 seconds)
    -More autobots join the team.
    -Starscream takes controll over the cybertronians however Soundwave goes to earth to try to bring back megatron
    -Megatrons overloaded when consuming the allspark and through a calming treatment by soundwave who crash lands on a aircraft carrier along with other robots seeks to bring him back
    -Megatron is revived
    -Scavenger is found in an abandoned pwer plant and then starts destroying the city as the other (6?) Constructicons land.
    After taking a beating optimus is forced into a fight with megatron and is very weak.
    -The final fight is at egypt as the fallen (The real charecter) is brought back to life and Devastator (The combined constructicons) makes his apperance. Optimus is killed and a group of soldiers need to protect his body as his spark could grant megatron eternal power.
    -Starscream arrives and betrays megatron. The fallen also betrays him when he heads off into space to awaken unicron.
    -Starscreams and optimus`s forces destroy devastator by taking appart his left leg.
    -Starscream is killed by megatron and Starscreams forces join with megatron.
    -However Soundwave badly wounded and as he and megatron share a symbiotic link Megatron is too weak to continue and retreats knowing that prime is going to die.
    -The film ends with the autobots gathering round there leader who has been placed upon a large metal slab as the autobots crowd around him primes words echo through time and space. "No sacrifice, No victory"
    -The end
    -The fallen (on a moon) Bows to his master as unicrons silhoute covers him.

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  129. I imagine a possible scenario with Devastator as The Fallen [which is possible, since we know Hasbro don't own the trademark 'Devastator' anymore anyway] would be that there's some kind of dig going on in Egypt. Yeah, archaeologists don't tend to use massive construction equipment, but then this is Michael Bay, in his universe I imagine dentists treat cavities with anti-tank missiles.

    The dig unearths The Fallen, who promptly formats himself as the entire set of construction vehicles on the site, perhaps pulling a TFA Starscream in the process with each one becoming an aspect of his personality.

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  130. "archaeologists don't tend to use massive construction equipment, but then this is Michael Bay, in his universe I imagine dentists treat cavities with anti-tank missiles."
    ROFL!!!!!! thanks pal XD

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  131. its funny how all u fallen fanatics that call people names for saying the fallewn is not in this movie post anonymously. the "fallen" is not in this movie..go read your obscure comic that featured him. cry your eyes out and grab your blowup doll and your cheetos and maybe u will feel bettr....the poster is not the fallen, it may b jetfire, but a previous post made an interesting point that it may b devestator....orci and the writers are g1 fans btw....the movie will b g1 influenced, thanks for writing douchebag anonymously pusssy

    Mommy ever told you,that you are just a dick, and noboy cares about what you say...? Go somewere else you attention whore.

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  132. Ok it`s also a bit funny how every idiot who is rude to everyone who is considering possibilitys posts anonymously on this blog.

    I would also like to point out to you that this could only portray part of the plot as in none of this script does it say that The fallen is megatron. The idea that The Fallen is megatron is made up by the person who completed this survey.

    Also how can we believe a phone survey it is most likely still part of bays Misinformation plan.

    Besides Hasbro already confirmed the face on the teaser poster is from a robot called The Fallen.

    Although the name devastator cant be used as it was used in an earlier film the combined form of the constructicons will say We are Destruction and "I am Devastation"

    And why is everyone becoming so rude on these blogs i wish people wouldnt come on here to rant about other people.

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  133. Alright people, this whole thing is a big set up, look at what the man himself has to say about it:

    http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=60440&postcount=29

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  134. The Fallen is in the movie, Why I'm sure ? cause there is some pic about his toys !

    http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=223

    Thanks, Thanks

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  135. "its funny how all u fallen fanatics that call people names for saying the fallewn is not in this movie post anonymously. the "fallen" is not in this movie..go read your obscure comic that featured him. cry your eyes out and grab your blowup doll and your cheetos and maybe u will feel bettr....the poster is not the fallen, it may b jetfire, but a previous post made an interesting point that it may b devestator....orci and the writers are g1 fans btw....the movie will b g1 influenced, thanks for writing douchebag anonymously pusssy"

    How do you feel now, Cause the Fallen is in the movie we have proof now http://www.tf08.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=223

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  136. hahahahahaha those bastards they thought that the fallen wasnt going to be in teh movie hahahahahaha fucking ass holes "the fallen is just another name for megatron"

    the new post shows the fallen toy fags hahahahahahahah fuckers

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  137. wow your a retard megatron does get revived you can see him in the new teaser trailer in egypt. But megatron isn't the fallen the fallen is a robot that was banished by the creator.

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  138. The Fallen is in this movie frankly I don't even know why anyone believed this phone survey.

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  140. how did some of the characters die like demolisher then come back to do the devastastor scene? then when devastator died some robots still came back like long haul and mixmaster?

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