In those sheets a scene is described as "Two halves of Ice Cream Truck. One spins. Join together. Ice Cream Truck splits around Chinese kids. Leaves treat." This description is why the truck is considered an Autobot since avoiding killing kids and leaving treats is very un-Decepticon behavior. The splitting in two, demonstrating a slight difference in behavior before merging also supports the notion of two separate robots. As the videos below show, you can see two halves of the truck beside each other and in the first video you can see the right half do a spin.
Two additional videos of note is the first one that shows a scene being filmed involving pyrotechnics and weapons. Note that the weapons are either firing at something in the air or at something pretty darn tall (the Constructicon Earth Mover perhaps?). The second video shows Tyrese and Michael Bay as they joke and are generally friendly with fans near the trailers.
Ummmm....first post, wut an honor :P.......I don't know if you guys noticed this....but in the 4th video it seems like the autobots are firing at something big and tall (they'r probably using helicopters to mark the heigh).....for some reason i Think....wait i'm 99% shore the autobots are fighting DEVASTATOR or THE FALLEN...it makes sense...we saw vids of the autobots passing the same place at day time....now we see a lot of firing at something in the sky.....probably not starscream or megatron cause it would have been useless to fire at them when they'r flyng....the'r incredible fast.....so this could only mean that they'r firing at Devastator or The Fallen...
ReplyDeleteP.s. Plz excuse my bad writting...i'm juz so exited...
I doubt it would be the fallen. If this movie opens in "China" they would not reveal the fallen this early in the movie. My guess is if the fallen is actually in it they wouldn't show him until at least the midway-to 3/4 of the way through the movie. I just doesn't make sense to reveal perhaps the biggest tf in the whole film importance-wise until much later. My bet is it's Long Haul...a decepticon earth mover was in the leaked call sheet...
ReplyDeleteYa..ur probably right..it is to early for The Fallen to apear.....but wut about DEvastator....it could be him...plus i was told the movie starts with a big fight between the autobots and decpticons....without any explanation how they really got there....thats why Reign of starcream explains how the new caracters apear on RoTF.
ReplyDeleteso Devastator against a small band of Autobots...
ReplyDeletethis is not good...
where are the Aerialbots?!
Ummmm...there is no charachter called "The Fallen", in this movie.
ReplyDeleteThe "fallen: refers to the "defeated" from the first movie. I'm surprised people still think that the Fallen is a charachter.LMAO. oh well.
"Ummmm...there is no charachter called "The Fallen", in this movie.
ReplyDeleteThe "fallen: refers to the "defeated" from the first movie. I'm surprised people still think that the Fallen is a charachter.LMAO. oh well."
Agreed, "The Fallen" come on people it's not the title of the movie, Bay did it to just screw with us. the FALLEN WILL NOT BE IN THE MOVIE
"Bay did it to just screw with us."
ReplyDeleteBay said NOTHING about the fallen, so i don't know, what are you talkin about...
"Ummmm...there is no charachter called "The Fallen", in this movie.
ReplyDeleteThe "fallen: refers to the "defeated" from the first movie. I'm surprised people still think that the Fallen is a charachter.LMAO. oh well."
Mind if I give you my e-mail address since you apparently read the script? ;)
You're as lame as those Mexicans who keep talking in the background of those first 3 videos.
You're a dumbass, you don't even know if they're Mexican. Fucken Racist.
ReplyDeleteYou're right. Those were black folks speaking Spanish. ;)
ReplyDeleteYo mom is a racist. And your dad's a fagort.
stupid kids.
ReplyDeletei thought this site was for movie fans to talk about the sequel?
how about this, maybe, just maybe the two little chevy cars are actually the ice cream truck autobots. makes a little sense that they were disguised as an old ice cream truck, then stay split for the rest of movie.
just and thought.
also, i hope they add some flying autobots. otherwise, all we have are some small cars and a semi! not exciting.
"how about this, maybe, just maybe the two little chevy cars are actually the ice cream truck autobots. makes a little sense that they were disguised as an old ice cream truck, then stay split for the rest of movie.
ReplyDeletejust and thought."
Where the hell have YOU been? lol
The Fallen is a character, don't argue with me i no a lot about trans4mers. read it on wikipedia type trans4mers the movie 07 or something, follow the link to the sequel ROTF at the bottom of the first movie fact file. it tells u the fallen was a servant of unicron, and it shows u a pic of him from the comics.
ReplyDeleteThis is pretty sweet.
ReplyDeleteThundercracker, you would lisen to information from wikipedia...why don't you just ask a fish about the Transformers.....
ReplyDeleteAnd no "The Fallen" isn't a TransFORmer (lazy ass can't even spell it the full name) The Fallen is refering to Transformers who have been defeated.
If those two bots that form the ice cream truck can individually form a car that looks BIGGER than the truck itself when they are joined, does this mean MASS SHIFTING is going on?
ReplyDeleteNote that I do not agree with this theory... Bay does not like the mass trickery.
Thundercracker, you would lisen to information from wikipedia...why don't you just ask a fish about the Transformers.....
ReplyDeleteAnd no "The Fallen" isn't a TransFORmer (lazy ass can't even spell it the full name) The Fallen is refering to Transformers who have been defeated.
RyanChaos322, did Wikipedia create this artwork as well?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/transformers/images/thumb/7/76/Thefallen.jpg/300px-Thefallen.jpg
You're a bigger dumbass than Thundercracker is. And an even BIGGER dumbass for sounding like you know jackSH*T about what the title for the film refers to.
Ok yall keep arguing and the Fallen is a real robot it was in one of the transformers comic i have the comic myself.And i doubt DEVASTATOR will be in the movie he would be bigger then megatron and optimus prime.so dont trip urself getting all excited the picture was probably made by some artist.and they said the autobots and decepticons team up to fight the fallen.i dont know if its true.
ReplyDeleteAnswer this question for me since yall keep saying their want be no transformer named the fallen. Why would they call it transformers revenge of the fallen.it would be pretty stupid to put it as a name.i think the FALLEN might have another name just they want say anything.
Ok class, let's all sit down for a little education lesson.
ReplyDeleteThe Fallen is indeed a character in the Transformers universe and the information on Wikipedia is accurate in stating that he was featured in the Dreamwave Comic - "Transformers: The War Within". He also is featured in Dorling Kindersley's Transformers: The Ultimate Guide. He was also made into a toy as part of the Transformers: Titanium line.
Now that the existence of The Fallen is out of the way, both the writer of the movie adaptation comic as well as the writer of the 5-part comic prequel have been quoted saying that The Fallen is going to be in the movie. In fact, Paramount/Dreamworks went out of their way to have the articles changed to take out those references.
Here is a link of Mowry's quote:
http://entertainmentnow.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/the-fallen-confirmed-as-villain-for-transformers-2/
Take it how you like, I just wanted to make sure that those of you that may not have been following the movie news closely were up to speed.
No-one has confirmed that the Fallen will be in this, why people keep thinking the title refers to him is beyond me. The title refers to the Decepticons that were taken out in the first movie, it's as clear as day. Haven't we been watching the same movie?
ReplyDeleteThis is to anyone who thinks there is going to be a devastator: the picture of him floating around was released on seibertron.com a while ago. it came with an article and quote of the artist, cant remeber his name saying that michael bay turned it down for the 2nd one, but it could be a possibility for the third
ReplyDeleteFlame war, BLAH. None of you can spell properly so quit fighting 'cause you're all dumb. :P
ReplyDeleteWhat a bunch of nubs. In the comic book series the Fallen is one of the original transformers created by unicron and cybertron. Of course hes a real character in the TF universe. Is he in this movie? I highly doubt it, he would be way overpowered and RoTF more than likely refers to the previously mentioned decpticons. Guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
ReplyDeletethe glory about this is since its bays universe, he can make the fallen whatever he wants, whether it be the original black flaming tank or the previously destroy bots and cons. he doesnt have to follow any comic or any precedent, he can make it his full imagery and i think thats cool. ive personally enjoyed what hes made so far even if its not the same as the oldies universe.
ReplyDeleteNo-one has confirmed that the Fallen will be in this, why people keep thinking the title refers to him is beyond me. The title refers to the Decepticons that were taken out in the first movie, it's as clear as day. Haven't we been watching the same movie?
ReplyDeleteKeep making presumptions, douche. Have you ever heard of DOUBLE-MEANINGS?
The Fallen can refer to the defeated Decepticons AND a lone character. Some of you people think so one-dimensional. Some of you don't even think.
The Fallen can go either way, either the fallen decepticons, or the Fallen character.
ReplyDeleteUntil we get confirmation, as in seeing the movie itself, the trailer, or even the toys for that matter .. there is no use insisting whichever one is right.
There is no point listening to what people say at this point in time, interviews and such could be true, could be false. Take it with a pinch of salt.
There is no fucking ''Fallen'' Characters in this movie. So don't come with your wacky theories.So that is no point to argue fallen is a character or not. So just wait to movie come out next year.
ReplyDeleteFALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN, FALLEN
ReplyDeletelet's get off the fallen chat for a sec.it's really a stupid pissing match between you nerds.
ReplyDeletemaybe that kid up there had a good point.
the two chevy trax the we have secret pictures of (red and green ones), maybe they are a seperated form of the ice cream truck twins.
sounds like a logical theory to me. again, maybe the kid's on to something.
oh yeah, RATCHET DIES! sorry but that's the early rumor that no one wants to be true.
Hi everyone!
ReplyDeleteFirst off let me say how great the active disscussions are with the upcoming movie. The hype is building to a level that will be eqaul to the movie's performance.
I'm not going to get into the theories that are discussed on here, but I will say that I'm part of the production department for Michael, and I hope it makes you guys smile to know he does ask from time to time, "what do they know so far?"
This site is a fan favorite as well as a source for us to find leaks from our department. Some of the posts here are indeed coming from our own leaks, but most are just good rumors and chewy bits for debate.
Also, you might as well know that some of us are also told to add to false rumors with comments and bogus pictures we created. Michael indeed gets a kick out of it.
But he in ways wants to insult his loyal fans by toying with them, he's just enjoys the rush that you folks are experiencing before the release.
Now, why am I telling you all this...because some of leaks are getting out that may lead to a key part of the story plot. I want you guys to excercise a little restraint from trying to see and read everything before the movie is released. Mike is working hard everyday trying to make this something other than for robots nerds as some critics put it. This is going to be a film for all audiences. He simply wants the audience to be amazed by the production achievments as well as a complex story line for loyal fans.
Thanks for your time and keep chatting as we will too...and feeding you guys more false rumors. LOL
For 25 posts above me. Some guy called another guy a racist, come one. wtf? Just because he says "Mexican" he's immediately a racist? Lame.
ReplyDeleteOk, one more comment about "The Fallen"... There would be no point to include a character called "The Fallen" That character was not even popular( if even known at all) by fans, or with the TV series or the Toys. Ask any Transformer fan, and they will never mention "The Fallen" as one of their top favorite characters. Bay would not waste a robot character spot with a robot, that nobody knew or even cared about.
ReplyDelete"THE FALLEN" REFERS TO "THE DEFEATED"
For 25 posts above me. Some guy called another guy a racist, come one. wtf? Just because he says "Mexican" he's immediately a racist? Lame.
ReplyDeleteI was the one who called the beaners in the video "Mexican". The person who called me a racist is a retard. Or probably a wetback too. :|
"I was the one who called the beaners in the video "Mexican". The person who called me a racist is a retard. Or probably a wetback too. :|"
ReplyDeleteOr a nigger!
I believe that we should all get along. like everyone else says this is a place for fans(not fights)
ReplyDeleteYou guys are all tough behind a computer. Just take the site for what it is.
ReplyDeleteThe "Fallen" is not who you think it is. Why the FUCK would Bay introduce someone that has NOTHING to do with the plot?
ReplyDeleteThere's a crap load of people that never knew transformers existed before the movie came out. Why the HELL would bay put some flaming robot on the big screen?
People still don't understand what transformers are, why would they do that? Why would he put the fallen in the movie? it doesn't make sense.
You people just don't use your damn brains. "THE FALLEN IS GOING TO BE IN THE MOVIE OMFG AND HE'S ON FIRE"
Ok well will we see Primus and Unicron in the movie too? Hot rod? All them? What about the matrix? huh?
The Fallen = Megatron and clan that were destroyed in the first movie.
For all that believes the fallen is that flaming homo robot are STUPID!!!!!!!
These comments are supposed to be about the Ice Cream Truck videos.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to talk about The Fallen and its meaning do it in the comments section about The Damn Fallen
FINE! The hologram inside the ice cream truck will probably be a terrorist Muslim extremest with a bomb strapped to his chest.
ReplyDeletehAppy whore?
I am the one who left the comment (I believe that we should all get along. like everyone else says this is a place for fans(not fights)) it was my first time posting and i did not mean anything by what i said. I am truly sorry if i offended anybody.
ReplyDeleteI'm just gonna throw this out there...
ReplyDeleteif The Fallen is indeed in the film, why would he need to exact revenge?
"The Fallen is indeed in the film, why would he need to exact revenge?"
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY!!!!!!! SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN IN THEIR SKULL FINALLY!!!!!
"The Fallen" What is he need for revenge?
The fallen i.e; megatron and crew, whats their motive for revenge? OMG the Autobots and Sam kicked their ass!
USE YOUR BRAINS PEOPLE! LIKE THE GUY ABOVE USED HIS!
The Fallen is indeed in the film, why would he need to exact revenge?"
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY!!!!!!! SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN IN THEIR SKULL FINALLY!!!!!
"The Fallen" What is he need for revenge?
8 words: WATCH THE GODDAMN MOVIE WHEN IT COMES OUT.
Yea, someone has a brain in their skull...and it's not you, you stupid fucktard.
GUYS LISTEN WHY WOULD THE DECEPTICONS WANT TOO HAVE REVENGE FOR THERE SOLDIERS 1. THEY HARDLY EVEN CARE FOR THER COMRADES THERE SELFISH AND ONLY CARE FOR THEMSELVE 2. THE FALLEN IS A REAL CHARACTER FROM TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE AND WAS MADE TOO A REAL TOY TITANIUM SERIES LINE. 3. WHY THE HECK WOULD THEY JUST COME FOR REVENGE THATS JUST BORING THATS THE STORY????????????? A BUNCH ROBOTS JUST HAVING REVENGE COMMON THEREW HAS TOO BE MORE OF A STORY 4. IT SAYS REVENGE OF THE FALLEN WHAT THE DEAD ROBOTS AR GOING TOO COME ALIVE AND REVENGE THEMSELVES OR SOMETHING, I DONT THINK SO. USE YOUR BRAINS FOR ONCE YOUR SMART, AT LEAST I THINK YOU ARE
ReplyDelete^ to person above me.
ReplyDeleteit could be that or it could be the Decepticons wanting revenge for the loss of Megatron ( their leader) by the hands of the humans & Autobots. Hence ' The Fallen' = defeated Decepticons.
I think the Decepticons would want revenge because they are evil and that's what evil folks do when they get whooped.
ReplyDelete*to the person above me
ReplyDeleteYah that could make sense....exept for the fact that the decepticons haven't seen megatron for 10,000 years.....so for them it's like he was dead already. And the decepticons are trully selfish and evil beings, they could revenge the others....but revemge is to simple of a storyline for a film.....something tells me theres more to the tittle than just revenge of the decepticons....
P.S. Hope that the title has double meanings, and the Fallen really apears...he could be like an introduction of the mext villan...he's creator, UNICRON.
I really hope Bay is making this ice cream truck thing into something cool (no pun intended). Because I just don't see anything badass about an old ice cream truck, especially one that splits and spins. I hope he didn't sacrifice a spot for a better robot, for this ice cream crap. I will shut up and wait for the movie. I trust you Bay.
ReplyDeleteUnicron didn't make "the fallen" Primus did. "The Fallen" was just a bad seed and went to Unicron. But I agree I don't see bay putting him in the film when he was only in a comic book. Also whoever said that the Decepticons only cared about there self's isn't true. They all served Megatron and was loyal except Starscream but enough about that.
ReplyDeleteBay didn't let us down in the first film and he wont now. For all we know the ice cream truck robot could be powerful
Umm, hello? He's on FIRE!!! And if I know Michael Bay, he won't pass off the chance of having a Giant Frikken Flaming Robot in the sequel.
ReplyDeleteFallen=Double meaning. It's that simple.
what if the twins were really sideswipe and sunstreaker..just a funny thought (twins,twins,twins)..hahaha..btw guys..why do u argue so much?..almost everyone hated when bay did the first movie and his designs..in the end..everyone who disses him watched the damn movie..so its gonna be the same this time round..enjoy the movie..love 'em or hate 'em..its the transformers rite??..so quit complaining,whining and what not..
ReplyDeletei got to agree about the two chevy being the twins..the ice cream truck is the twins..two chevy twins..why?..remember when bumblebee scanned the concept camaro??.yeah..the twins might just do that also..coz their truck looks kinda like a piece o'crap..thats what mikaela..im just quoting her..
ReplyDeleteso is wheeljack in or out?..if he is in and it got me thinking..what if ratchet dies like sumone above said..he dies and it makes way for another autobot that fixes things..WHEELJACK!!..Think..ratchet and wheeljack does the same thing..repairing other autobots..
ReplyDeleteThis movie is gonna be better than the first one. Acorrding what i herd this is the twins first autobot misson.
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