Wednesday, October 22, 2008

More From Seibertron's Insider

Seibertron.com TF insider has provided additional information for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Previousily he had commented on Soundwave's alt mode, Arcee, and some TF powers. The new info seems to support or clarify some of his earlier statements.
Couple more tidbits while I can....

Arcee doesn't die in the movie, she just doesn't show up until later on, and spends much of her time as a robot.

The movie was not shot in sequence; everyone seems to think that the stuff being shot now is the end of the movie ... Only Bay knows for sure!

Only one character combines with another Autobot to make a bigger robot ...

The Constructicon is 9 vehicles together but will only make a brief appearance.

Scorponok is back in force, and he swims down and uses his internal "spark" to refire ONE of the Decepticons ... Who, Im not tellin' ...

More as I get it! Shhhhhh
The Arcee tidbit and the movie being shot in sequence is about the suggestion that she dies early in the movie since the only time the rumored Arcee bikes have been spotted was at the Bethlehem shoot which TF producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura said was for opening the movie with a bang. The theory is if she plays a larger role in the movie she would have shown up in more set locations. However, we know next to nothing about what was filmed at the various military bases nor what second unit has been up. It is no accident that most of our information is on the Autobots only and almost nothing about the Decepticons except rumors.

As for the movie being shot in sequence. Clearly not. The Bethlehem Shoot that seems to have been picked up at Queensway Bridge pretty much kills that idea. The combining reference is back to the idea that Jetfire somehow merges with Optimus Prime at some point in the movie. Nine Constructicons? Really? I thought seven was a bit much but now nine?!? Yeah right. If they make only a bit appearance why bother having them show up at all.

Last is the return of the very legitimate theory that ties into the "Fallen." If you believe that character is not a new one but the return of a defeated Decepticon (i.e. Megatron) then how does that 'Con come back? Why with another spark of course and who better the Scorponok. I don't know if I believe it but of the group that one is probably the only one that is closest to the truth of a story beat in the film.

22 comments:

  1. ummmmm preety interesting things....some of the info seems to be true....exepet for the nine constructicons(form devastator) only apear during brif aperance....that dosen't really seem true and if they don't have that much screen time maybe there will be a few more decepticons (7 or 8) in the movie, making a total of about 15 to 17 decepticons. thats actually a lot, i only though there wer going to be 10 decpticons againt 10 autobots...i guess things hav changed.


    p.s. first post

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  2. Interesting? Dude, the more, and more i see from the "f***** awesome and briliant TFW2005/SEIBERTRON/TFORMERS Insider", the more bullshit i see. It's all fake. And even if just a little bit of this info is right, the 95% of this is still bullshit. Realy, i can't imagine anybody, to belive this...

    I will just wait, for hasbro to show the toys. Then we will realy know, how many there is constructicons, will Optimus and Jetfire combine, and other stuff, cause right now i don't beleive i anything from this insiders.

    Realy, even i could be one of them, sendeing an info to Seibertron, and claiming, that i am an RotF insider, from the movie set. And why wouldn't they belive me? What proof they have, against me?

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  3. I find it hard to believe that will be 9 Constructicons, just doesnt make sense. A smaller number seems more logical.

    That being said, I would be very disappointed if they were relegated to background characters.

    I was really hoping to see them combine and thrash stuff on the big screen. Only time will tell.

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  4. i remember hearing the theory about skorpinok reviving megatron with his own spark before they even started shooting the movie. I think i read it in the comments of an article posted on here a while back. hmm...

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  5. To the last comment:

    The idea of Scorponok reviving Megatron is from the polt on IMDB.com if I remember it correctly, though it has been removed now.

    Does anyone have the "fake" leaked script thing from before they started shooting? The one that had Devastator, Hot Rod, Ultra-Magnus and a lot of others, battling it out in Las Vegas?
    I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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  6. i have it..it was preety bad....seriusly looke d lyk a ten year wrote it....send me ur email i'll send it to you.
    i also have the fake script of the dark knight writtin by michael bay.

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  7. SOUNDS LIKE SCORPONOK WOULD REVIVE BLACKOUT SINCE HE WAS "PART OF HIM"

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  8. Act One
    - Starscream returns, now self-declared leader of the Decepticons.
    - Rallies the others around his goal is a new energy source derived from the Allspark that rests on Earth. Plans overheard by Hot Rod.
    - Soundwave leads a faction that is still loyal to Megatron and with his followers battles Starscream and co and gains control of the resurgence ship Nemesis
    - Sam and Mikaela are in college, her at community and Sam in New York. Still together.
    - Sam and Bumblebee have a strained relationship since the city of gridlock makes driving a car impractical.
    - Shige, unspecified Asian, is Sam's roommate and learned English from Baywatch closed caption. Guessing he is the comedian role that Anderson was for first movie.
    - Nemesis slams into the ocean, destroying an aircraft carrier and taking on its form. IE Nemesis becomes a transforming aircraft carrier (something rumored to be in the sequel for a month and more).
    - Soundwave takes on the form of a "large, military-grade focused sound laser" while the other Decepticons take on military vehicles that where on the downed carrier.
    - Megatron's crushed lifeless form is retrieved and placed in a Cybertronian chamber. Since sound is a form of energy, therefore making Soundwave an unlimited source of energy, he is able to heal other Transformers and restore Megatron. The reason mainly because the merging of the Allspark with Meg's spark caused an overload and shutdown of his system rather then death.
    - The resurrection's side-effect results in dependency on Soundwave for energy but (I think), Meg's wouldn't like depending on anyone for survival so needs something from Prime to complete his return and sends his minions to capture Sam as leverage.
    - Hot Rod lands on earth to warn Prime of Starscream's plans and coordinates for unknown energy source. The alt form, Ferrari F430, is taken from a "high-profile action movie director's car (a cameo perhaps for Bay?).
    - Autobots head to Las Vegas, with Hot Rod (with Mikaela) running ahead of them due to his speed.
    - Bumblebee also heads to Vegas with Sam and Shige in tow (after a scene involving street racing).
    - Mikaela finds Agent Simmons, who now works for LUXOR in Vegas, to get the location of the object.
    - Everyone but Sam and company form up at the home of Linus Ellison, descendent of the Sector 7 founders.
    - The second source, "City of Lights" is an orb that stores the Allspark's excess energy that was collected while being studied by Sector 7 and is used to meet the United States energy needs. The electrical conduit for the orb runs from Hoover Dam to Vegas, in effect Vegas was built to hide the orb much like Hoover Dam was built to hide the Allspark.
    - The Luxor (the black pyramid) provides the access point to the orb (hence Simmons working there) resulting in a White House ordered evacuation of the entire city.

    Act Two
    - Sam and co still heading to Vegas, Shige still unaware of Bumblebee is a robot; watch their dorm destroyed by a giant robot on TV. Sam recognizes that means he is in danger.
    - Creation Matrix is introduced and contained within Prime. The Allspark provides life, the Matrix provides the Transformers with a soul and free will. Without the matrix the Transformers are soulless primal beasts ("hence the cell phone, Xbox and Mountain Dew machine"). Decepticons therefore came from the Allspark and Matrix but used free will "to follow a path of evil". (Very slick and very obvious, I feel pretty stupid for not thinking of this).
    - At this point, Starscream wants the Orb and Megatron wants the Matrix.
    - Meanwhile Sam and co reach the roadblock of traffic from the evacuation of Vegas and come head to head with six construction vehicles...who merge to form Devastator.
    - While trying to escape Ultra Magnus and his car load of Transformers arrive to attack Devastator and defend Sam. Meanwhile Shige pees in his pants (thinking BB wouldn't like that). A vicious battle ensues.
    - Devastator is slowed buying time for a tactical retreat down Route 66 to Vegas (historic American landmark, worth googling).
    - In Vegas, the largest defense force ever assembled is ready as Starscream's faction arrives in protoform.
    - The force is intercepted by protoform Autobots (so three groups of Autobots) resulting in a free-fall battle until forced to break for crashing landing to Earth. The fight is rejoined and moves toward Vegas.
    - Once the fight reaches Vegas, the military learns that the Decepticons no longer effected by the sabot rounds making them ineffective in the battle.
    - The assault continues above ground while below Mikaela watches as Ellison and Simmons wordlessly hatch a plan.
    - Night falls as the Autobots defense of the Luxor barely holds. Reinforcements arrive in the form of Sam and co. pushing back Starscream's faction.
    - Sam and Shige are escorted down below as Skorponok drills through to the underground bunker undetected.

    Act Three
    - Skorponok is detected and despite best efforts from the military below ground, manages to sever the orb from the electrical conduit, stopping the flow of energy to the nation, plunging cities and Vegas into a blackout.
    - Military re-enforcements arrive in Vegas, only to discover they where infiltrated by Megatron's forces and destroyed.
    - The military lies in waste, the Autobots outnumbered and exhausted, Megatron's forces begin their assault.
    - Seeing the odds, Ellison makes the call to go to the Stratosphere Tower and release a Sector 7 built electromagnetic pulse that would destroy all electronic systems within 50 miles including the Transformers and the orb. Despite knowing it would kill them; Optimus approves of the plan and orders the Autobots to clear a path up the strip.
    - Soundwave, overhearing the orders, moves to intercept.
    - Prime, Magnus and Hot Rod stay to defend the Luxor, the others move to defend human's move to the tower.
    - Starscream, thinking the advantage is his, moves to attack the Luxor to claim the orb.
    - The fight up the strip against Soundwave's troops results in a kamikaze move by two Autobots that opens the lines but also kills the military specialists for the EMP.
    - Sam and Mikaela ascend the tower under assault from a Deception with Bumblebee trying to defend. Eventually Bumblebee wins forcing the weak Megatron to enter the battle and clumsily but effectively stopping the EMP and possibly killing Mikaela.
    - Soundwave attacks Starscream's faction with a sonic pulse that also hits Prime who was chasing a determined Hot Rod that had ordered his retreat orders.
    - Soundwave uses that opportunity to rip the Matrix from Optimus and brings it to Megatron restoring him to full strength.
    - First order of business to regain the role of undisputed leader of the Decepticons by taking out Starscream those results in a dogfight in the Grand Canyon.
    - The defeated Starscream's last act of defiance is a message to his faction on Cybertron, "I have prepared the way..." resulting in a mass exodus from Cybertron to Earth. (HMM so TF 2 Vegas battle is what Helm's Deep was to the Two Towers, with I guess TF 3 having a battle that will be like Return of the Kings Minas Tirith - if true sweet)
    - Movie ends with the Autobots recovering in Ellison's compound, Optimus severely wounded, Hot Rod determined to right his wrong (I guess getting the matrix from Megs), Sam feeling betrayed by Prime with the death of Mikaela, and Mikaela regaining consciousness, the forcefield of the Bumblebee defeated Decepticon failing after having protected her from the destroyed Tower.
    - Basically ...to be Concluded in TF 3.

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  9. ^^^ Read false leaked treaments much? I hope you cut and pasted that and didn't waste your time typing it.

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  10. the 9 constructicons is a bit much... but some with a limited role is possible? everyone seems to want them thru the entire movie...what if bay uses devastator as a teaser at the very end? i've heard it's more or less a victory for the cons in this one right?

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  11. "the 9 constructicons is a bit much... but some with a limited role is possible? everyone seems to want them thru the entire movie...what if bay uses devastator as a teaser at the very end? i've heard it's more or less a victory for the cons in this one right?"

    9? Give me a break! I dont believe that or anything else he said at all.

    Scorp reviving megs has always been an idea of how he'd come back.

    and I doubt if bay was going to use 9 to build devastator that he'd be in the movie for more then 1-2 minutes, he'd cause havok for at least 10-15 minutes before he got his ass kicked.

    it's all misinformation, i wouldn't believe it

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  12. I know Scotponok goes and revive it's obvious you just gave away the secret you said swam down i kinda knew that after transformers was done in the movies like right after the movie i was like yea he's going to revive megatron can't for the second movie udsfinbtsj0 a bundle of joy..

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  13. well gee thanks victor,, now i dont have to wait to next summer.

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  14. "strandh said
    Does anyone have the "fake" leaked script thing from before they started shooting? The one that had Devastator, Hot Rod, Ultra-Magnus and a lot of others, battling it out in Las Vegas?"


    Victor posts fake script


    Anonymous said...

    ^^^ Read false leaked treaments much? I hope you cut and pasted that and didn't waste your time typing it.






    There's your answer.

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  15. I think you will find that there will be no constructicons in the movie. The whole thing is probably miss information. You may get Combaticons or something or nothing.

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  16. thet thing about the nine constructicons is just plain dumb for one thing bay said 10 on each side now the autobots have 10 the 3 chevys, jetfire, arcee, and sideswipe, but if theres nine constructicons then only megatron will be the old character what the heck happened to skorponok and barricade and newer robots. people want too see a variety of transformers not just nine robots that transform into construction vehicle. 2. in the g1 the were only five constructicon that was okay seven was really high but now nine, thats out of control.
    3. how are the autobots gonna stop a giant super robot that is propably gonna be 50 feet or more high its completely IMPOSSIBLE. well unless optimus and jetfire combine that might stop him but im just giving facts please comment

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  17. ya know i found a script of tf2 and it said something about hotrod and a bunch of other autobots join with prime to rondevous with bumblebee on the way to las vegas and it says a secret sector seven base is theRE and theRES a MACHINE THAT CAN WIPE ALL TRANSFORMERS OFFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET BUT STARSCREAM DESTROYS IT IN THE FINAL BATTLE AAND WHEN BUMBLE BEE IS BATTLING DEVASTATOR ALL OF A SUDDEN A TRUCK WITH A TRAILER AND CARS COME AND THE CARS JUMP OFF AND TRANSFORM INTO ROBOTS TO AID BUMBLEBEEE THEN THE TRUCK TRANSFORMS. SADLY IT DID NOT SHOW ANY NEW CHARACTERS

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  18. Everything on this site is bullshit.
    There's no insider, i promise you. The producers and the rest of the team sign a contract, and if someone leak some information there totally fu*ked. They have break a contract and will go to court

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  19. "Anonymous said...

    I think you will find that there will be no constructicons in the movie. The whole thing is probably miss information. You may get Combaticons or something or nothing."




    There was Bonecrusher (Constructicon in G1) and he got killed in the first movie but he wasn't a construction vehicle.......screwed.

    As for Combaticons, in the 1st movie, we got Brawl or was it Devastator ? (and he got killed)......Awww crap now I'm confused.....Double screwed!!!

    I'd like to know how they're going to fix this little problem?

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  20. I'm too late to point out the IMDB reference. Damn. lol. Well, I'll repeat it anyway to make myself feel good.

    IMDB.com had the synopsis reporting that Skorpy replaced Meg's spark with his own. I myself can't think of any time that IMDB gave me misinformation. I think they must have had to take it down because it must have been too accurate. Besides. I'm pretty sure it's basically been confirmed that Megatron is coming back. You just can't have TF without Megsy, in my humble opinion.

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  21. Could be something completly different. Might be Stunticons or "something" cons. I just hope its done well. As someone said a while ago, its going to be a hell of alot of CGI getting this thing on the screen. And cost alot of $$$$. I still have my doubts that there will be no combiners.

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  22. "IMDB.com had the synopsis"

    Did they give a source to this synopsis? Where id they get this? Why should i belive?

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