Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Even More TF Rumors

IO9.com collected the various new rumors that have popped up over the last couple of days and then provided a few new ones of their own. Usual disclaimers about this applies.
Meanwhile, a guy who knows a guy has a buttload of spoilers. Apparently Soundwave is black, and does not have an Earth mode. (So not only is he not a pick-up truck, he's nothing at all, in Earth terms.) And the Decepticons mention Soundwave during their discussions.

The Constructicons join together to form Devastator more than once. Jetfire starts off as a Destructicon and then changes sides. Also, John Turturro's character dies at last. Optimus Prime "has a scene with a trailer." And Ravage is actually a biological weapon, and there's no Laserbeak. The ice cream truck, the Chevy Volt, and the Hummer HX are not Transformers. And Megatron doesn't return (possibly as a tank) until the end of the movie — when Soundwave resurrects him.
My two cents again. Soundwave as a satellite supports the notion of a black non-Earth mode. I wouldn't mind satellite to robot toy but I am betting that Hasbro would be far less enthused by the idea since kids tend to like their toys to do a touch more in the alt mode. Jetfire changing sides fits the character historically and the idea has been since the character was first determined to be in the movie.

John Turturro dying rumor has been coming around lately. Might be something to it. Nothing like killing a core character (but not too major) to drive home the seriousness of a situation. Optimus "has a scene with a trailer" sounds like a joke similar to the beetle sitting next to Bumblebee in the parking lot from the first movie.

The ice cream truck and Volt not being TFs, sure that could be true but that doesn't really explain why those two vehicle has been seen at multiple sites and traveling with the Autobots rather frequently. The Hummer on the other hand seems to have only been at Bethlehem and suggests it was involved with that one sequence which means it a) died or b) was a human vehicle only.

As for Megatron's resurrection, are they really going to hold Megs back to the very end again? If they where setting up for the third film that would be fine but Bay and the writers have been very adamant with the press that they are not doing that. The bit about the Fallen, sure why not. Currently there is absolutely nothing to support or contradict the idea. More then likely though, due to simple budget constraints, I am guessing the Fallen is a single character. Otherwise you have three groups of robots (Autobots, Decepticons, Fallen army) to CGI which can be mighty expensive once those groups come together.

While I am at it, here are more rumors posted from comments on another post.
Hello.

I can confirm some of these rumors as an employee of Dreamworks.

Jetfire is confirmed. He will be hurt and he will use a landing gear-which is NOT computer generated-as his crutch, however it is very unlikely that he will combine with Prime.

Soundwave's alt mode is a satellite, I'm not so sure about Bay's plans for a truck.

Scorpinok WILL return and there will be hell to pay :)

Three bikes will combine for Arcee.

The Chevy Trax is NOT Cliffjumper. This car is the RED car that people have been commenting about. The Trax is one of the "twins"... it's twin is the GREEN Chevy Beat (Skids).

I hope I have helped a little, I'm not sure what has already been posted on this website since I ran across it by accident.

Also, let me state that everything that has been "confirmed" by any source can change at the drop of a hat. Bay can have a vision of one thing one day and dream up something completely crazy the next. An on-going motto on any Michael Bay set is "It's Bay, you never know". I promise though, you won't be disappointed!
A damaged Jetfire using landing gear as a crutch is new and actually a pretty interesting idea visually and a good way to mitigate his potential strength (which, based on TF1, seem to be proportionate to size). If take the comment at face value this would be the third source to say Soundwave is a satellite (which does fit the character), further confirms Scorponok's return (given), continues the Arcee rumor (my favorite theory) and first to "confirm" who the twins might be.

It will be interesting to revisit these anonymous rumor posts once its all said and done to find out which was real and which was simple misinformation. Regardless, it adds to the fun.

43 comments:

  1. Bring on the trailer! This could all be miss information aswell
    First post

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  2. yes ppl wait to see the trailer and the truth will come out.if you guys know that when they film a movie they start frm the end to the begining and as well who does the first and second shoot. so dont beleave whats on here just the vids could be some wrong who knows.bay is smart not a dumb ass. who knows maybe chocolate rain song might be in the movie or peanut butter n jealy time song will be sung by prime when jet fire is on crutches when he is sad and down. funny @#%$ is posted on here and i love it lol

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  3. In referring to Cliffjumper, he mentions a RED car...what is he talking about? Haven't heard anything about that

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  4. The part about the ice cream truck, Chevy Volt and Hummer not being transformers is BS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX16x-su6aA&feature=related
    the ice cream truck split and performing stunts as stated on the call sheet there is also several more videos.

    The following is links to the Chevy Volt rolling out with the AUTOBOTS
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYnfp8zLkM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEnDCUlOyiM&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep97jXjJ5LQ&feature=related

    As for the Hummer I would say it could be Soundwave or a human vehicle.

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  5. i just wanna kno what was that other red car in the trailer with the corvette that didnt get brought off the trailer, i say hot rod cuz if this movie is goin b about big fights who better then one of the best fighters, oh n they need prowl from transformers animated

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  6. Thier is no red car. That orange colored Beat is not red.

    Please post a picture or link of the red car. I want to know what you guys are talking about?

    I have NEVER seen a pic of a red car. as I stated Only the orange beat.

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  7. Sorry the Chevy Trax is the ORANGE Car. Not the red car that everyone keeps saying they are seeing. I am sorry to dissapoint you but I have not seen a red car. Never, not even In long beach when I was watching the the cars. If you call the Trax red, then to me it looks orange.

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  8. "If you call the Trax red, then to me it looks orange."

    Than maybe go check your eyes, or give as some photos, where he is orange! Geez, what are you, a GOD, that you think that you are always right? If you want from us a photo of a red car, then first, give as a photo of an orange car. We look at picture. He's red there. Show me, that he is orange, and i will agree with you, but until that, STFU, cause you are annoing.

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  9. does anyone else here, need a trailer?

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  10. Whoever made this news blogg is retarded to think Fallen is a single character. No he f#cking not. Fallen is not a single character. Fallen is just a synonym for defeated site.
    I can't believe everyone think fallen is in movie because of the title,WTF?
    And I thought TF Fans were cool.

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  11. "Whoever made this news blogg is retarded to think Fallen is a single character. No he f#cking not. Fallen is not a single character. Fallen is just a synonym for defeated site.
    I can't believe everyone think fallen is in movie because of the title,WTF?
    And I thought TF Fans were cool."

    I guess, that you are not a TF fan anymore, huh? And why not think, that it could be a charater name, just like in DW comics? IT'S A FUCKIN SPECULATIONS, IT'S WHAT WE DO HERE, AND WHAT THIS SITE IS FOR. You don't like it? Then fuck of, and get out of here, nobody will care for you mister spoilsport. Oh, but you propably just saw the script, and know for sure, huh?

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  12. "Than maybe go check your eyes, or give as some photos, where he is orange! Geez, what are you, a GOD, that you think that you are always right? If you want from us a photo of a red car, then first, give as a photo of an orange car. We look at picture. He's red there. Show me, that he is orange, and i will agree with you, but until that, STFU, cause you are annoing."


    First of all I am going to call you a Douche Bag! Ok so Douche Bag, why dont you come out from Anonymus so that we can see who this Douche Bag really is? Come on Douche Bag come out and play.

    Again Douche Bag I saw this car fist hand, Douche bag, it is more Orange/red then just plain red, yeah it can have red Highlights I will admit that. But this is not the car that everyone keeps talking about in the back of the trailor that they keep saying is red, Douche Bag!

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  13. "First of all I am going to call you a Douche Bag! Ok so Douche Bag, why dont you come out from Anonymus so that we can see who this Douche Bag really is? Come on Douche Bag come out and play.

    Again Douche Bag I saw this car fist hand, Douche bag, it is more Orange/red then just plain red, yeah it can have red Highlights I will admit that. But this is not the car that everyone keeps talking about in the back of the trailor that they keep saying is red, Douche Bag!"

    Ok, so, you can call me... Robert. Does that make you such a diference? Yes? Good. You can rest now, that you know my name. Now. Photo please. Oh, and make finaly clear, with car are we talking about, cause you make a hell of a mess...

    Oh, and what's the point of saing my name, your "ranger 565" is as pointless, and not telling me anything, as my "Anonymous"...

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  14. To start off my comment first I am going to tell all of you guys to quit whinning and bickering like little girls.

    Regarding this info, I have not seen any other (Red or Orange) car besides the Beat.

    Next the Ice Cream truck is a transformer, we have seen it split in two, we have also seen pics of a faction symbol on it but not clear enough to see wether it is an Autobot or Desepticon.

    John Turturro's character dies at last. Who cares really!!

    The Constructicons join together to form Devastator more than once. This is going to be really expensive. I'm not counting on it.

    Ravage is actually a biological weapon: He needs to be Cat like.

    Apparently Soundwave is black, and does not have an Earth mode. (So not only is he not a pick-up truck, he's nothing at all, in Earth terms.):
    I don't see him not having an earth mode unless Bay and company are not smart enough to find an Alt mode, I just don't see him coming to earth to fight and not have some kinda cool Alt mode. Do you know how many people will bitch if we only see him in his Cybertronian mode, I mean there were complaints about him being a truck now no alt mode at all??

    Well thats my 2cents

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  15. "Next the Ice Cream truck is a transformer, we have seen it split in two, we have also seen pics of a faction symbol on it but not clear enough to see wether it is an Autobot or Desepticon."

    Just for reference here's the pic:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SK4ZPWR3JwI/AAAAAAAAC2g/t3deKod9RL8/s1600-h/AirforceTFPics1.jpg

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  16. ''The Chevy Trax is NOT Cliffjumper. This car is the RED car that people have been commenting about. The Trax is one of the "twins"... it's twin is the GREEN Chevy Beat (Skids).''

    Oh No,Chevy Trax Is Hot Rod =P LOL

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  17. im just gonna throw this in the air...is it possible the ice cream truck is alpha trion....???? last i checked his g1 colors where purple, white, red and blue... i see lots of purple and white...and its an old junker ice cream truck....just my 2 cents>>> anyone agree???????

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  18. ^^^Not a bad Call he looks like an older bot in some of the cartoons

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  19. To ranger 565, just because u haven't seen it does mean it's not there you aren't the eyes of everyone so don't sit there im sorry to disappoint everyone but here is the link for the picture look where the door is and thats not the trax n if u say it is u need to get ur eyes checked because the trax nor the beat have big chrome rims

    http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/TransformersCorvetteConcept1/1002853825

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  20. and its not BB cuz he does have a side light on his nose n the rims dont match

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  21. i mean doesnt

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  22. thats not side lights that is a red rack or red ladder in the door it goes from the bottom of the door all the way to the top you gotta look real close and that is bumblebee he has new rims in this movie the car is yellow it looks orange because of the reflection from the red inside the trailer onto the yellow car!! its easy to have mistaken it for a different car

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  23. ok i got a new "spin" on the ice cream truck... i think it could be arcee... heres why, arcee is said to be 3 bikes that combine. ok what does this have to do with the ice cream truck, well the ice cream truck is small, very small splits in half on that youtube video.. meaninig the ice cream truck is possibly a "combiner".. in other words arcee starts out as the beat up ice cream truck but reformats to the motorcycles...just something to think about

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  24. the bikes are similar to color to the ice cream truck

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  25. Sorry to break it to you dude that's Bumble Bee in the trailer

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  26. I like the Arcee as an ice cream truck theory... anything to get a ice cream truck toy hahaha!

    As long as they make her purdy of course!

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  27. The source said Shockwave gets mentioned, not soundwave. :O

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  28. "The source said Shockwave gets mentioned, not soundwave. :O"

    My source says, that Megatron will Transform into a pony! Than again, can we realy belive, what my 5 years old sister say?

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  29. This might be not sure, but I think that Im know who is this Chevrolet Trax Autobot, Skids's twin brother might be Tracks. Because words 'Trax' and 'Tracks' are nearly similar. I'm sure that the Twins are Skids and Tracks.

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  30. "I'm sure that the Twins are Skids and Tracks."

    brothers, probably......twins? no....they look nothing alike.

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  31. TF2Crewmember - Veiled@live.com10/24/2008 10:54 AM

    Alright guys... Since this post this is about the comment that I left in a previous post, I will try to clear it up. In certain light, the car looks orange. It is NOT orange, honestly it is more of a burgundy tint than anything. Here is a photo of it up close.. (and let me also state that this photo belongs to Dreamworks Pictures and myself... do not reuse or repost without permission from me)

    I apologize for any confusion I may have caused but THIS is the "red" car I was talking about, and twin to the green beat (Skids). As far as "brothers, probably... twins? no", you are wrong. They are TWINS. Remember that not all twins in the world are identical. They are called the twins both on set and in the film.

    http://i33.tinypic.com/1y4dqd.jpg

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  32. TF2Crewmember - Veiled@live.com10/24/2008 10:56 AM

    Also, one more thing...

    The other twin is Trax. A pat on the back for you, sir.

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  33. Comment to the post above...

    NOW i would like to see, what the ALMIGHTY and ALWAYS RIGHT ranger565 have to say :) Or maybe "blinde ranger565" ;P Thanks for the photo ;)

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  34. Thank you about saying something that fool commentor, veiled@live.com...what ever you are. Only reason I'm watching these pages is because of information about all characters of TF II movie. I'm not sure is that rumor about "9 Constructicons, no 7" really true. Only alternate mode I have no idea is alternate mode of the Fallen (if he really is a character of this movie). Chevrolet Volt is a mystery. I have no idea is it a transformer robot or not. Audi R8 Decepticon's name is also thing which I have no idea. I still believe that Skids's twin brother is Tracks.

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  35. dude its f'in bumblebee if we think we no something but dont know all the facts dont rip on other people who tell u different..if you knew so much about the tf 2 movie you would of known bumblebee has different rims this time.......and that is old news..and omega33 is right thats some kind of red ladder or something in the trailer door to make it appear there is a sidemarker...but it is soooo bumblebee...so whos the blind ass now...suggestion look real close!!!

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  36. um yeah i can see the arcee starts off as the icecream truck theory. its small it splits in half like a combiner, and its purple...but at same time i can see the alpha trion theory too...and yeah thats totally BB in the trailor

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  37. Clearly BB doesnt have a turn signal light next to his headlights so how is that BB look at other pics of him and if u have gooooooooooood vision you cant miss the difference

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  38. Listen carefully you who commentend my post about 9 Constructions, The Fallen and Tracks: Only thing I want to know is all robot modes and all alternate modes of transformer robots in this movie. To know why Bumblebee's Camaro mode looks little diffrent in TF II movie I'll wait I'll see the movie. Only thing which are sure are that Twins change their combining mode ioce cream truck to Chevrolet Trax and Chevrolet Beat, Soundwave changes his cybertronian satellite mode to pickup truck (I believe it's Hummer H3) and that when Megatron returns, his cybertronian alternate mode is not a jet anymore. It's a tank.

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  39. "The Fallen and Tracks: Only thing I want to know is all robot modes and all alternate modes of transformer robots in this movie."

    You will know, as soon, as Hasbro show theyr brand new toys.

    "To know why Bumblebee's Camaro mode looks little diffrent in TF II movie"

    1) Why not?
    2) Hasbro want to make a new toy of him, that is slightly diferent from the first.
    3)It's been to years, thers a new model, and he wanted to be cool... Or Mikaela just said "hey, you piece of crap, you know, that there is a new model o Camaro?" xP

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  40. ok one more time the picture of the car in the truck trailor that everyone thinks is red is not it is BB he isnt a regular camero in the movie he is the new z28 camero it has different hood and rims the car in the truck trailor does not have a side marker zoom in the damn picture its a red ladder or shelving unit in the trailor in front of the car making it appear to be a side marker...if you really look close you will see the red "ladder" goes from the bottom of the door all the way to the top... its friggin BB old pic old news
    http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/TransformersCorvetteConcept1/1002853825

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  41. If you think that there will be a new toy of Bumblebee. There must be new about Optimus Prime, if he and Jetfire can really combine.

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  42. "If you think that there will be a new toy of Bumblebee. There must be new about Optimus Prime, if he and Jetfire can really combine."

    Well... DUUUUUUUHHHH? :B

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  43. Optimus Prime's ability to combine with Jetfire is not yet sure. Only combining I know are Skids and his twin brother's combining to ice cream truck before they'll scan Chevrolet Trax and Chevrolet Beat, Arcee's robot mode will be combination of three RetroSBk motorcycles and Devastator is combination of construction vehicles. By the way, you should try to stop questioning me.

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