Monday, January 12, 2009

Possible Story Points, Superbowl Ad Time and No To Superion

Some new rumors about Transformers 2 for your consumption and discussion. The first comes from AllSpark.com's "Toadimus Prime". My comments are in parenthesis.
… a friend of mine works for a company that's licensing some merchandise for ROTF and told me a few things that he's seen for the upcoming film, including some early CGI stuff etc.

- The film opens with the US Military teaming up with the Autobots, who are the military vehicles, to hunt down rogue Decepticons. Springer is one of them, and this is the part in China.
- Wheels/Wheelie is a blue remote control car and very small Transformer. He discovers Jetfire at the museum by driving underneath him and seeing the Decepticon symbol. (This at least fits description of what was filmed at Udvar-Hazy.)
- There's a seen where Alice pins Sam to the bed, and a tail with a hypodermic on it cones out of her back. She also has a giant tongue, apparently. Should keep the Kiss play fans happy! (Something to add to the Ravage as Pretender rumor.)
- The twins are important characters who fight each other a lot and can combine. (Might explain the split ice cream truck.)
- Devastator looks like a gorilla, and has the cement mixer drum in the centre of his chest, which he can use as a weapon.
- Possibly Superion as an autobot combiner, but he was a little vague on this. (Nope, the toy is just a repaint, not part of the movie.)
- Megatron hasn't been in any of the film licensing stuff, just the toys. (Matches Bay's words on the subject.)
- He saw a Decepticon Hot Rod model, but he's convinced that was part of the disinfo campaign. (Or just a another non-movie character toy for the toy line.)
In addition to the above, "Tawd" reports that someone he knows received some promotional material for Transformers 2 including the new official poster and that the Superbowl trailer is expected to air during halftime (not officially confirmed). In addition, to contradict Toadimus, he reports "that they're going to bring back Megatron and the Starscream/Megatron relationship will be more prominent than it was in the movie and much more like the G1 series. Also, it may be a three way brawl much like the Insecticons fighting Autobots and Decepticons and the Fallen will pose a threat to both sides." (No he isn't saying the Insecticons are in the movie, it is a G1 cartoon reference I believe.)

Apparently IESB.net and WorstPreviews have joined the Superion bandwagon. They are reporting that Superion and Devastator are going to fight in the movie, using the description from the recently leaked toy pictures as a source.

This is a rumor that needs to die a quick death before it gains legs. A repaint from the 2005 Transformers Energon toy line, which doesn't match the movie style in any way shape or form, is not from the movie. If "Superion" was going to be in the movie, they would not re-release a toy with that name, reserving it to match the design used in the movie. Since Hasbro didn't its safe to say that the character is not in the movie.

Thanks to Gregory and Steven for the links and Tawd for his information.

46 comments:

  1. Interesting.

    And "Tawd" isn't really contradicting himself - all that says to me is that Bay is trying his hardest to keep Megatron under wraps (while Hasbro is also avoiding overexposing Megatron's return, but that Megs is still getting his Leader-class).

    My money's on Prime and Jetfire being the first two Leader toys out the gate, with Megatron the third.

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  2. I really hope they bring Megatron back as the tank Galvatron. Daym, dat scene with Alice seems extremely kinky! lol. 2 bad they had to remove the australian girl 4rm the first movie. O well, alice makes up for it! It makes sense the twins would fight alot, since they split from the united ice cream truck into 2 seperate trax and beat. I find it ironic how in the 1st film the military "vehicles of destruction" (including barricade)were decepticons and in this film some autobots are using them as alt modes too! Daym I can't wait!

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  3. Hoping its misinformation and Hot Rod is the silver corvette, the design suits him!

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  4. Fantastic!
    What more here;
    Live TV : http://onlinetv68.com

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  5. its already been confirmed that the silver corvette continental concept is sideswipe, keep up with the info.

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  6. I'm pretty sure that's all bogus. I've seen the leaked sheets and know some people who were at the Bethlehem shoot that takes place in China, and they are positive that there were absolutely no V-22 Ospreys on set (which the Legends-class Springer toy is based on).

    Megatron is in some of the film licensing stuff - there is a CG stock image floating around.

    Superion is not in the movie, guaranteed.

    The description of Devastator is nothing new, if you read the leaked info from the various anonymous insiders, it isn't hard to end up with a similar description

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  7. Sideswipe has NOT been Confirmed> NO offical Info has been givin. IF you read the post a few days back, Its proven that NO offical word on that characters name. No one KNOWS for certin who that characters name is. As in the same case of the Red/Orange Trax.

    So No Sideswipe is NOT confirmed. I would Love to see anyone of you prove that he is confirmed.

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  9. I agree with the above post, their was only some Conference in which the characters name was brought up and it was 3rd hand information on that to be Sideswipe. Hey, he very much could be, but it’s not official on any level.

    I will second that. Is that corvette really Sideswipe? Ask yourself, what proof is there? Only what someone said they found from a Conference in China or Some Asian country from a while back.

    Mod please if you can post that link of the official word if one does exist

    *Reposted for lots of mis spell issues! 8)*

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  10. That's an awesome idea for an opening. I can't wait for all of that CGI awesomeness.I like how the Autobots team up with the military. That's just what I've always wanted to see: (since seeing Ironhide in the 2007 film, at least) Huge 24 foot Ironhide towering beside the military soldiers.
    Soldier: "Ready! Aim!..."
    -KABOOM!!-
    Ironhide: "Sorry. I just wanted to show you my cannons."

    I'd also like to see the Autobots taking gunshots and missles in attempts to protect the human military from attack. Optimus scoops up Lennox and Epps just in time to avoid being hit by shrapnel. Ratchet blows up a tank before it can shoot.

    Sweet.

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  11. Sideswipe has not officially been confirmed. The name is still considered a rumor (by me anyway) until something more official comes out like say the toy in his deluxe packaging.

    - TFLive

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  12. It was some Italian toy conference. And when using yahoo translator, there is no mention of sideswipe.

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  13. So then whey the heck are they posting its Sideswipe? LOL I dont think its him. Its another character.

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  14. So then whey the heck are they posting its Sideswipe?

    ..to fuck with our minds, just like 85% of the info they have given us.

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  15. IGN.com are in on the Superion BS too

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  16. most of this information is not new. I think the rest is mis-information.

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  17. The Superion info is pretty BSish.

    All that is is that a bunch of sites saw this Superion toy, and didn't bother doing any fact-checking with their Transformer friends - who would have told them that these are Energon molds thrown into new movie packaging and repainted.

    Which naturally drops the likelyhood of them being in the movie to astronomically low levels.

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  18. It would be awesome if Superion was in the movie, given the filming at the plane graveyard, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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  19. "Skowl said...

    I'm pretty sure that's all bogus. I've seen the leaked sheets and know some people who were at the Bethlehem shoot that takes place in China, and they are positive that there were absolutely no V-22 Ospreys on set (which the Legends-class Springer toy is based on)."

    Perhaps, but except for the shot of Starscream asking the Decepticons to report in in the first movie, how much of him in his alt-mode was most likely CGI? I would say most if not all. Springer could have easily been there as an Osprey and be all CG. We don't really know for sure. I'm sure a lot of the decepticons in that scene will be CG too.

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  20. Can't wait to find out how much of this is actually true...

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  21. Springer appearing at movie? Just a rumor, I say. Megatron's tank mode will be only a new toy isn't a rumor. Devastator is still mystery. But I have no idea is this Wheels name using character Wheelie or will he appear in movie.

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  22. I know this is off topic and sorry if someone has mentioned this before. But I just finish watching TF1 and realized that barricade's alt. mode as a Ford Mustang isn't practical for a cop car. When is the last time you've seen a 2 door police car. Sorry i had to get that off my back.

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  23. Counterpunch1/13/2009 4:24 AM

    As I have said before in previous threads I will not be surprised if the Aerialbots will also make an appearance in TF2. Simple. Deceps have Devastator so it's quite logical for the Autobots to have a counter measure with their own gestalt robot to take out Devastator.

    I aint buying the Prime & Jetfire combo. Now that's BS...

    but having Superion battle Devastator. Now that is a sight to behold in CGI terms...

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  24. i hope the film has loads of transformations, the transformations can make this film just epic, its what makes it different from like a terminator film

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  25. So No Sideswipe is NOT confirmed. I would Love to see anyone of you prove that he is confirmed.

    The guy who did photo of his toy must have the box. So, he looked at the box, and read the name. Than, he puts this photo on his forum, and name him Sideswipe, because it's the name, he saw on the box. IS IT REALY SO F***** HARD, OR ARE YOU REALY THAT STUPID?!

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  26. @Counterpunch: I think there is the chance that we will see Jetfire helping the Autobots in creating Aerialbots maybe using the small part of the Allspark that Optimus Prime got from the dead Megatron. It's known that there should be a scene involving Autobots in a aircraft scrapyard... which would make the creation of Superion pretty like the G1 Anime...

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  27. So from what we know with the information at hand, Prime likely combines with Jetfire, because the connection points exist on both toys. Why would they go to the trouble of creating such parts for no apparent reason? it costs them money to make such things.

    As for Springer: New-mold, non-repaint Legends class toys in Transformers mainlines (that is toylines supporting motion pictures or supported by television shows) are almost always toys of characters that appear on-screen. It was this way with the Cybertron line, it was this way with the 2007 Movie line and it was this way with the Animated Legends class toys.

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  28. Aerialbots are just toys, repaints of toys from 2004 and 2005. The EXACT SAME toys in the exact same colours with the exact same biographies were released in December in Australia and Singapore in Universe packaging. The ROTF Superion is just the North American release of the same toys, put in the ROTF line because Hasbro figured it would sell better during the Movie Hype under ROTF packaging. That's it.

    So it is highly, highly likely that Superion will *not* appear in the film.

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  29. Counterpunch1/13/2009 10:59 AM

    @ Anonymous posted at 7.53 AM.

    Yep. I like that "possible" idea of yours. It is plausible that Jetfire will help the Autobots create the Aerialbots at the plane junkyard... Cheers!

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  30. @FFN: Bay always wants to deliver on his movies more than the general public would expect and always tries to make fight sequences epic and the Transformers franchise allows him to do what other plot lines couldn't (as Spielberg said he was born to direct it).. so there is the possibility that he might have decided two things to happen: 1) The Decepticons order the Constructicons to combine and create Devastator, maybe downtown (?let's hope so for what could be the most amazing fight sequence in the movie..) and Optimus Prime gets help from Jetfire to counter-attack the massive monster before it's too late--and he gets severy damaged during the fight 2) With Optimus Prime unable to fight and Devastator that was barely affected by the Optimus+Jetfire combination the Autobots needed to do something in order to protect Earth from Decepticons attacks and the new threat so Optimus asks Jetfire and other Autobots to use what remains of the Allspark to create new soldiers to combined with him could be powerful enough to stop Devastator... and so the aircraft graveyard scenes...

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  31. The guy who did photo of his toy must have the box. So, he looked at the box, and read the name. Than, he puts this photo on his forum, and name him Sideswipe, because it's the name, he saw on the box. IS IT REALY SO F***** HARD, OR ARE YOU REALY THAT STUPID?!

    This is the reason People do not come to this board for Asshats who talk to people like this. I bet this guy is a fat, toy playing, Non girlfirend, nosepicking asstard who all he has better to do is to insault people online, becuase the rest of society does not aprove of him.

    and NO Sideswipe is not Confirmed name. Their is NO actual Proof that this is the name of the Character. So next time you raise your voice at people for realizing reality? Go suck on a dog!

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  32. Has anyone found out who the Audi R8 is yet?

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  33. This is the reason People do not come to this board for Asshats who talk to people like this.

    I think there is enought people comming here, to say, that no one cares for people who write s*** like him.

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  34. I can def agree with this.... everybody has an opinion and I'm all for hearing everybodies even if I dont share the same opinion as them

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  35. It could be the combined Prime and Jetfire call themselves Superion.
    We've already experienced hasbros toy to movie name discrepancies with the whole Devastator/Brawl deal with the first film.

    Information that comes from licening sources is never usually this detailed. Having worked in the toy industry and getting info on films early is the norm but its rarely detailed. The part abou the twins sounds like a rough bio you might expect to find and the part about alice sounds like a description of a scene still.

    Given the nature of whats been 'spoiler' here and the timing I'd guess the person with the info is not so much working on product but is more likely working on preparing the Transformers ROTF room for habros trade stand at one of the toy fairs coming up soon.
    (for those who don't know on Hasbros trade stands at the various trade toy fairs they have separate rooms that only invited memebers of the trade can be shown round. The rooms are usually completely blocked off and are guarded by a couple of staff and require you to sign a non disclosure agreement to enter)

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  36. Im taking a guess that the Audi R8 is going to be Barricade. If you have read some of the prequel comics, he is still alive and doing surviellance of the Autobots. Im guessing he ends up rescanning to help him stay in hiding...

    -Dave

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  37. I had a crazy thought (a few times).... Whenever I think of Springer I remember that episode where Snake/CobraCommander put autobots into simulacrum / fake human bodies. And then I think that Lennox kinda reminds of Springer. What if they did the opposite in ROTF? Lennox gets mangled beyond repair and must be uploaded into an Osprey based transformer... voila Springer. heh. yeah kinda crazy.

    -serinx

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  38. I was kinda thinking the same thing about the barricade R8 deal.......But then I saw set pics of the police car soooo I dont know if Bay is trying to throw us off or what but maybe it is Barricade

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  39. THE TOUCH, THE FEEL OF POWER! THE TOUCH, THE FEEL OF COTTON! THE FABRIC OF OUR LIVEES!

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  40. I would imagine that the Packing lists for the ROTF toys have some character info on them. and if someone has an actual case and not just a case packaging sample then if they have the card for the Corvette they should say the name on it.

    I've not heard one word contridicting that the Corvette is Sideswipe since the name Sideswipe came to light.

    I suppose the thoughts of that name is that it refers to him swipping with his swords.

    I suspect we will get a flood of info very soon from multiple sources as a lot of the movie products need to be solicited 3 or more months in advance for release in May.

    I'm stil not sure which way to jump about Megatron. The only source for him so far does seem to be mainly toy images bar one older CGI picture. - But Arcee had a CGI picture too and she was not in Movie 1 either.

    For the moment I'm guessing he either shows up late or not at all. but then we have heard little about Starscream either and everyones asuming he's in it - for all we know the Fallen could kill him as soon into the movie as some are saying the Audi (Barricade?) croaks it.

    I hope Alice isn't Ravage even if the name fits as I don't really want Ravage to be a girl - it's Transformers not New Battlestar Galactica after all.

    Bad enough that Animated Red Alert is a girl.

    The only way I can see Springer being in it is if he's CGI in both modes as they don't usually color Osprey's green.

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  41. the decepticons steal the twins transformation cog and therefore allow the constructicons to form devastator, the twins take on seperate alt modes lol i hope we see trypticon

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  42. @Anonymous who responded to FFN: IF, IF there were Movie Aerialbots, then logically Hasbro would instead be releasing Aerialbot toys based upon their movie designs, not repaints of existing molds from 2004.

    It would be highly unusual for Hasbro to release two separate Superion toys in the same toyline that look completely different from one another.

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  43. Anonymous said...
    I know this is off topic and sorry if someone has mentioned this before. But I just finish watching TF1 and realized that barricade's alt. mode as a Ford Mustang isn't practical for a cop car. When is the last time you've seen a 2 door police car. Sorry i had to get that off my back.

    Actually it is not as unusual as you think. Do a search and you will see some police do use them, as well as camaros, and i believe rarely even vettes.

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  44. All I can say right now is: "Rumorz. We haz dem." I prefere to just wait and find out. Still, should be awsome!

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  45. Damn. Megatron isn't in the rotf. This sucks for me because if megatron was their with his new form, he would be kicking optimus prime's faceplate off ten-fold. It would have bin really cool if Megatron, Prime combined with Jetfire, and the Fallen fighting each other.

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  46. Damn. Megatron isn't in the rotf. This sucks for me because if megatron was their with his new form, he would be kicking optimus prime's faceplate off ten-fold. It would have bin really cool if Megatron, Prime combined with Jetfire, and the Fallen fighting each other.

    Yeah, and he would serve no purpous at all, just like in the first movie, he would just stand there and "Me Megatron is strongest of them all" in the last minutes of the movie.

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